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3rd Jan 2019, 6:00 AM
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Cure For What Ails
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Newbiespud 3rd Jan 2019, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Curing the ponies in-character kinda takes a backseat because what ended up solving the crisis was going out-of-character and talking things out.

At this point, I don't think I can claim that this was the plan the whole time. When I started, I knew they would get cured, yes, and not quite the same way as in the show, but... This sort of emerged organically as the comic script advanced. I'm fairly happy with it now that it's written.

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22 Comments:

Steel Resolve 3rd Jan 2019, 6:29 AM edit delete reply
I get all the reactions. Thing is, only Applejack, Rarity, and Pinkie Pie were truly cursed. For Fluttershy, well, it was just her not saying nothing at all when she didn't have something nice to say. Unfiltered Fluttershy is basically just being nice in a different way by telling you what she really thinks. That can seem cruel, but often holding it all in is a cruelty to her to spare her friends. Shy is a character of extremes.
THE OTHER GUEST 3rd Jan 2019, 8:51 AM edit delete reply
Maybe so, but with how perceptive she is, she knows that there is a time and place for everything. There is also the matter of the method of delivery.

For the former; sure, sometimes telling someone "What you really think" about them, the situation, what they're about to do, etc... when what you have to say might not be the kindest thing on the surface can be doing them a favor and actually helping them. Other times it's better to sit back and let them "Touch the Stove", so to speak, so they can learn their own lessons, and then you come up behind with the kind words of reassurance and possibly a few more practical medical supplies, and when/if they ask "Why didn't you stop me", you pull out the big guns and give them all the reasons they wouldn't have listened, or why they needed to learn this lesson on their own.

As for the method of delivery, there's a fine line between using your perceptions and pointing out a person's flaws in a way that lets them see and understand them in a way where they can learn to be better, and wielding those words as a weapon meant for nothing more than to cut down their victim's confidence and self worth until they're an impotent mass of blubbering indecision, and even for perceptive people it can be hard to tell where that line is sometimes because it's at different places for different people depending on a myriad of factors.

Yes, sometimes what may initially appear as Cruelty can actually be a Kindness, but most of the time Cruelty is just Cruelty, weather it's deliberate or accidental, and while I have no doubt someone like Fluttershy knows the difference, given her implied background I don't yet see her having the self confidence to differentiate the two in her own actions. We probably won't see that until if/when Spud gets around to the "Putting your Hoof Down" episode.
Archone 4th Jan 2019, 10:55 PM edit delete reply
One of the more recent episodes of the show itself actually touched on this subject. Rarity asked Applejack to be a judge for a fashion design contest, because Applejack was known for her honesty (obviously). The moral of the episode was that you could be honest without being hurtful - show a little diplomacy, show a regard for their feelings.

In the case of this comic and Fluttershy... I don't think anyone ever taught her that. In fact, she seems to have had a very nasty experience with someone who was constantly negging her under the guise of being honest. And would claim, "I'm not being cruel, I'm just being honest!"

Which... would lead her to associate her honest perceptions of others with cruel thoughts ("I'm thinking this person is wrong about something - that means I'm thinking mean thoughts about them!").

I do notice that she puts a little pause there at the end. "Being Fluttershy again is... so nice..." (Kind of like Obi Wan stating, "What I said was true... from... a certain point of view...")
Anvildude 3rd Jan 2019, 8:43 PM edit delete reply
I'm kinda wondering if Flutters' reaction is tied into how much of a 'character actor' she seems to be in-show. "Fake It Till you Make It" in particular, and also the whole Iron Will thing suggest that Fluttershy in the show has a tendency to take on 'roles' and immerse herself in them- which begs the question of whether or not she is _actually_ Shyflutter at all.

This could, in this comic, translate to the Player being a Method Actor, and maybe just not realizing it fully yet.
Vadan Drumist 3rd Jan 2019, 7:33 AM edit delete reply
I can only see/hear P.P. laughs as those of Tidus from FF10. They did indeed suck.
Guest 3rd Jan 2019, 8:30 AM edit delete reply
but Tidus' laughs were SUPPOSED to suck.
That's what everyone forgets.
The Tidus Laugh was a forced "Giggle at the ghosties" type.
The voice actors succeeded with aplomb.
Guest 3rd Jan 2019, 9:41 AM edit delete reply
Yeah, it was deliberately weird and bad. Tidus was trying to lighten the mood by acting ridiculous. He laughs much more naturally shortly afterwards.
Hariman 3rd Jan 2019, 4:41 PM edit delete reply
Tidus was forcing a laugh at first, then he was having a breakdown as the reality of everything that had happened up until then truly git him...

And his supposed new friends just call it sad and walk away.
Redwings1340 3rd Jan 2019, 8:07 AM edit delete reply
I'm surprised discordgm didn't step in and have twilight and co rp out the memory spell and figure out what memories are the ones that pushed the ponies back to normal.

I get that everyone is kinda pushing the session towards a conclusion a little, but I can't help but feel this is a wasted opportunity.
Classic Steve 3rd Jan 2019, 8:14 AM edit delete reply
Why, Applejack, I'd sooner expect that remark from Rainbow Dash. Aren't you supposed to be lawful good?
ScaleShine 3rd Jan 2019, 10:31 AM edit delete reply
Well to be fair, lawful good still means "I can and will rib you for this from now until eternity" with friends.
Jennifer 3rd Jan 2019, 11:26 AM edit delete reply
She's also motivated by profit.
Jennifer 3rd Jan 2019, 11:28 AM edit delete reply
I eagerly await Dash's announcement that she is now cursed, just to mess with the others and get in a few of her beloved combat rounds.
Winged Cat 3rd Jan 2019, 11:41 AM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
What's with Fluttershy's sigh? Is being nice a facade after all?
Summoned Singer 3rd Jan 2019, 12:28 PM edit delete reply
Summoned Singer
I think the sigh is not having to say awful things at the drop of a hat.
Greebs 3rd Jan 2019, 1:50 PM edit delete reply
I think it's a sigh of relief that she can crawl back inside her comfort zone.
Hariman 4th Jan 2019, 1:04 AM edit delete reply
I think Fluttershy enjoyed not having to hold back her opinions and views to spare everyone's feelings, and wants to continue being at least a little more honest/forthright.

I think this is the beginning of an arc of Fluttershy becoming Sassyshy/Flutterbold, as she does in the main series.
GrayGriffin 5th Jan 2019, 4:18 PM edit delete reply
GrayGriffin
God, why are Fluttershy's opinions and reactions getting so many bad takes this arc?

Fluttershy: *literally frowns upon thinking DiscorDM will stick around and looks relieved when she learns he won't*
Comments: "Aha! She's secretly in love with DiscorDM and wants him to stay!"

Fluttershy: *literally says she prefers not being cursed and sighs with relief*
Comments: "Aha! She secretly likes her curse!"
Needling Haystacks 3rd Jan 2019, 12:42 PM edit delete reply
Stories that tell themselves tend to be the best kind.
Digo Dragon 4th Jan 2019, 9:31 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Mmm, what kind of purchase will that be, Applejack?
DuoScratch 5th Jan 2019, 12:24 AM edit delete reply
I'm just gonna say it, I already know it's gonna be swarmed with "nou"s, but...I just don't think Fluttershy should be so easily forgiven. She didn't have to dig as deep as she did. She was just told to speak her mind, not be cruel. That's where the difference lies with the show, and this game. Fluttershy was still cruel when she wasn't even prompted to be. Show Fluttershy has the excuse of specifically being told to be cruel with her brainwashing.

If I were the others, I wouldn't make a big scene, but I'd probably not just forgive her. I'd continue with the game, cuz it'd be unfair to bring up more stuff at that point, but all would not be forgotten, or forgiven. And the reason why, Fluttershy is obviously fake. Her true voice pretty much confirms it.
Mr Wednesday 5th Jan 2019, 5:34 AM edit delete reply
Well, you said it.

I don’t agree at all. From what I saw, Fluttershy the character was pretty cruel, but the player wasn’t. She passed up many opportunities to insult or belittle the other players.

Remember that’s DiscorDM wasn’t being impartial when he cursed her: he made an emotional decision because she pricked his gigantic ego, so he gave her a “show them who you REALLY are” kind of curse to work with, which had a significant negative effect on her. That’s wasn’t her true voice, just a mask she felt like she had to wear. It wasn’t any truer of her than Pinkie’s gruff action persona.

Could you provide an example of an unforgivable thing she did?

Personally, (and hypothetically) I think I’d have the most tension with Applejack, since policing other people’s playstyles really isn’t my jam. But I don’t think anyone (even DiscorDM) did anything here worth never letting go of.