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Newbiespud 12th Jan 2019, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Look, once you've open the high-school-memories can of worms, you have to empty it out and share the catharsis around a little bit.

(Alright, alright, I just wanted to use some more Equestria Girls screencaps while I have the chance.)

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83 Comments:

Kyu 12th Jan 2019, 6:08 AM edit delete reply
“The Incident”
ThatGuest 12th Jan 2019, 6:22 AM edit delete reply
I think she tore her cheer outfit off during a game to reveal another outfit, but forgot to wear the outfit. And didn’t notice her absence of any covering upon her body.
Digo Dragon 12th Jan 2019, 6:26 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
So that's where Janet Jackson took the idea for the Superbowl.
Archone 12th Jan 2019, 12:39 PM edit delete reply
That wasn't Janet Jackson. That was... possibly her male partner for that show, but it might have been someone else entirely who thought it'd be a good idea to sabotage the costume. That is why Ms Jackson ran off the field while clutching her exposed chest, rather than continue the routine.
Needling Haystacks 12th Jan 2019, 11:54 AM edit delete reply
Well presumably she would still have underwear but embarrassing regardless.
Departure_Dave 12th Jan 2019, 10:58 AM edit delete reply
It involved noodles and some punk named Calvin. >.>
Specter 12th Jan 2019, 6:27 AM edit delete reply
Specter
My high school experience wasn't bad. I had to live with my fellow class mates griping and complaining about ten thousand different things that were completely pointless, but that was about it.

In fact, it was during my time in high school I finally got into DnD, MLP, and this comic.
Digo Dragon 12th Jan 2019, 6:30 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
I'm mostly in Applejack's box with high school. I had my fair share of adolescence issues and social struggles, but overall it wasn't a horrible experience. High school is where I really got into tabletop Role-Playing games and was part of an eclectic but fun GURPS group, so I have that bit of good memories going for me. I think my real struggles began in college, when my parents divorced and I really understood the weight of being an adult with job and bills. :/
A Mysterious Egg 12th Jan 2019, 6:45 AM edit delete reply
I'm mostly a combo of both of.the GMs honestly. Middle School was total and utter hell, and part of that was because I considered myself above everyone else intellectually.

I mean, I was, objectively speaking.
Kaze Koichi 13th Jan 2019, 1:27 PM edit delete reply
Yeah, Middle school was way worse then high school. I had several horrible moments in high school, but I don't hate high school's overall experience.
RandomRex6 12th Jan 2019, 7:03 AM edit delete reply
So I'm a Rarity/Discord blend. Interesting...
Balrighty 12th Jan 2019, 7:06 AM edit delete reply
High school was probably where I stopped bothering to try to be the social butterfly that I certainly am not, if the complete lack of signatures in my senior year book is any indication.
ChaosStar0 12th Jan 2019, 7:12 AM edit delete reply
Highschool wasn't bad for me, but my dad pulled me out when I was 18 and failed 10th grade. I already repeated 2nd and 7th grades. It was also there that I realized I like teaching others.
Dinode 12th Jan 2019, 7:21 AM edit delete reply
Meh, I was homeschooled, high school wasn't really any different for me.
Hankroyd 12th Jan 2019, 7:21 AM edit delete reply
I guess I'm average : High School/Middle School wasn't that good, but wasn't bad either
Anon 12th Jan 2019, 7:35 AM edit delete reply
Ah, high school. So many memories.... repressed.
Zaftique 12th Jan 2019, 8:19 AM edit delete reply
I mostly remember a guy I kinda liked in HS showing me the Dragonlance supplement to AD&D 2e, but it was the heyday of the "omg D&D is satan's game" hysteria, and my 10-years-older brother was already playing it with his friends, so nooooo, I was allowed nowhere near it. sigh. Ultimately ok though, I hated HS with a passion.

Suck it, Mom - I LARPed in college.. I was a VAMPIRE, WHOOooOOooOooOOooOoOoooooOOO!!!
TheStratovarian 12th Jan 2019, 8:32 AM edit delete reply
TheStratovarian
High school. Lets open up this dumpster fire.

Avoided getting biblically stoned by the vice principle's son in front of 100+ people. Cost a teacher his job when he testified in court.

Spent more than half the year of my 10th grade staring at a wooden box in complete silence, or hiding from roving gangs on school. (For assaulting said gangs trying to hurt me.)

Got the government involved with my school, when they threatened to withdraw money for the above assaults on my person from the sons that the faculty did nothing about.

Dodging class due to the above gangs. That is in three years of high school? The fourth was only one minorish incident?

There's quite a bit more.
Digo Dragon 12th Jan 2019, 9:02 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
How is there not a Made-for-TV movie about your school? :o
TheStratovarian 12th Jan 2019, 11:20 AM edit delete reply
TheStratovarian
I don't know. I really don't. I've endured, and taken that motto to as best I can. Just soldiered on and kept moving forward.

The school well, they had folks in the right place, right time. That kept this kind of thing from really reaching the papers. The vp son getting tried was a hush hush affair. They had the school resource officer trying to convince my family to not take this to court. They couldn't stop it, but it never made any kind of headlines.

After that though, they left me alone, as its the issue that brought in the government due to paperwork that had just gone through.

I really don't know why i'm alive with things. By all rights I shouldn't really be here given half the crud i've lived through, gone through, or had injure me in various ways.

I'm 36, and lived through interesting times.
Needling Haystacks 12th Jan 2019, 11:56 AM edit delete reply
Interesting phrasing on that last line, TheStratovarian. Reminds me of the old curse, usually translated "may you live in interesting times." (Terry Pratchett had a whole thing about that).
TheStratovarian 12th Jan 2019, 3:20 PM edit delete reply
TheStratovarian
That is a truer curse than most do, and the worst thing you can wish with meaning behind it. It is a subtle curse, and with vehement design, it finds a way.
tipulsar85 12th Jan 2019, 10:04 AM edit delete reply
High Schoolwas clam for me for all of the first two years, the Alquaida decided to take to the skies. Which was followed by the start of a long string of family emergencies mostly involving cancer that lasted until I took a year long break from the local Community College in the winter of 2005. Let's just say some one decided to turn the family drama dial of my life to high.
QuillPenn 12th Jan 2019, 10:09 AM edit delete reply
The Incident? Any chance noodles were involved?
Zetsus 12th Jan 2019, 10:37 AM edit delete reply
Got through one year before having a mental breakdown, dropping out, getting my G.E.D. and then going to college.

I swear if I see my highschool as anything else than a building rapidly passing me by as I visit family I'll burn it to the fucking ground and salt the earth.
evileeyore 12th Jan 2019, 11:07 AM edit delete reply
School was school. It's not like I had to work two jobs to support a family, go to war, or do anything other than school and enjoy life.

I've never understood how hung up everyone gets about their school years or childhood.
Borg 12th Jan 2019, 11:15 AM edit delete reply
Sometimes I forget how easy I had it in high school. Sure, I knew enough caffeine addicts to ensure I will never get into hard drugs like that, but it's not like any of my peers ever had a life-threatening OD or anything. There are certainly much worse things.

As for middle school, I despised most of my peers (I'm going to pretend I called them all pervs because I'm asexual, even though that's a weak excuse), but I wouldn't honestly call that a problem for me. There are benefits to being a loner, even if it does kind of make me Discord in this situation.
Brigid 12th Jan 2019, 11:27 AM edit delete reply
I never went to high school. Elementary was *hell* and Mom gave me the option of being home-schooled after sixth grade. I *jumped* on the chance, especially since the attacks were starting to get physical. (Mostly in the form of tacks on my chair and open safety pins in my desk.)

To be fair, I was a really weird kid, a loudly weird kid with zero social skills. I probably brought a lot of the teasing on myself. Sure would've been helpful if the school councilors had actually known anything about psychology, I might not have had to wait until my mid-twenties to find out about Asperger's.

By the way, being home-schooled was *awesome.* I could take as much or as little time as I needed to understand the material, I could ask my parents questions whenever I wanted, I even had some control over the curriculum. The only downsides were not getting days off for being sick ('cause I *lived* at school) and the local school superintendent actively trying to sabotage us by forcing my parents to fill out paperwork and fulfill requirements not mandated by the state. Wasn't just us, either, turned out he had it in for *everyone* who home-schools in the district. Heck, he even forbade the local notary public from notarizing my transcript when I went to college. He's not supposed to be able to do that!
albedoequals1 12th Jan 2019, 11:35 AM edit delete reply
albedoequals1
Hey, fellow homeschooler!

*hoofbump*
Hankroyd 12th Jan 2019, 1:46 PM edit delete reply
Never homeschooled but 10 years ago, I was hired to be math/science teacher for someone homeschooled (teen with an acute phobia of being with too many people.)
So we (the teachers) received his lessons via mail, made lesson for him, then he had test to get notation.

I liked it. Having one people eager to learn, an a cute dog nearby is a way more interesting way to teach than being in front of thristy ungrateful critters with no interest nor talent that we aren't allowed to kill nor mutilate even when they deserve it... *hem* sorry ... On a complete unrelated not, don't worry, I stopped teaching, something told me I wasn't fit for the job.
Brigid 13th Jan 2019, 11:24 AM edit delete reply
*hoofbump*

Yeah, I don't know how *anyone* can handle being stuck in a class room from most of the day. The kids are going to get restless, the teacher is going to get overwhelmed, and there's no way to deal with all the resulting chaos. How does anyone manage to learn anything in that kind of environment?
HappyEevee 13th Jan 2019, 3:30 PM edit delete reply
*hoofbump*

My older brother and I have severe dyslexia (as does our father) and on top of that, my bro is an auditory learner, which is a pretty nasty combo when you're trying to learn how to put letters together. Our school experience was... special.

We started out in the local public school, but when he was in second grade my parents found out the teachers were literally standing my bro in front of the class and saying "here's the spelling words for everyone else, and here's a different list for you because you're stupid and can't learn the same words the others can." They explained (again) that he had dyslexia and gave the school one more year (his third grade, my kindergarten). At the end of that year the school told our parents they were putting us in special ed so we wouldn't ever have to learn how to do math or spell. Our parents said "they will too," pulled us out and started homeschooling us.

Homeschooling isn't for everyone, but it really saved us. We're adults now, both avid readers, good at math, able to spell our words, and not hiding in the corners from everyone else. Home schooling was tough in our state back then (the school boards would send social workers to the door with cops to take kids away from homeschooling families) so we had to go above and beyond. Our mom took us to an independent educational testing consultant every year to prove we were not falling behind (we were always ahead of the curve) and we wore uniforms - yes, uniforms - every day in our little classroom at our desks in case the social workers showed up. But we LEARNED. And we loved it.

Once we found we could ask questions and have our mom explain stuff without yelling at us or telling us how dumb we were, we studied everything. We loved math and science and history. We sat there with dictionaries on our laps and learned to spell all those words. We joined the local homeschool support group and played sports and took art and music and botany classes with other homeschoolers. We learned and grew and loved it. All because our parents cared enough to homeschool us.

Parents who care can make a HUGE difference even without teaching degrees; they can teach their kids that learning is fun, books are amazing, and challenges can be overcome.
Brigid 14th Jan 2019, 8:51 AM edit delete reply
Yikes! Reminds me a bit of my mom's experience. A teacher said right to her face that she was stupid and she believed it. Wasn't until college that she found out she has dyslexia.

I also identify with the fear of social workers. None actually came to our house, but I heard my parents talk about kids being taken from their parents. This fear was compounded by the local superintendent actively trying to sabotage us with near impossible requirements not mandated by the state. I spent a good chunk of my childhood and teens planning how to flee from the government.
albedoequals1 12th Jan 2019, 11:34 AM edit delete reply
albedoequals1
Not as bad as high school but a close second is TV and movies about high school.
Newbiespud 12th Jan 2019, 11:45 AM edit delete reply
Newbiespud
Hey, there were some good ones! Like, uh...

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........
Wulfraed 12th Jan 2019, 1:42 PM edit delete reply
To Sir, With Love
The cheesiest sandwich 13th Jan 2019, 6:07 AM edit delete reply
To Sir With Love is a GREAT movie!
Guest 12th Jan 2019, 2:13 PM edit delete reply
Grease. That's about the only one I can think of though.
Digo 12th Jan 2019, 4:43 PM edit delete reply
Stand and Deliver.
Meneth 12th Jan 2019, 5:05 PM edit delete reply
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Doublexxcross 13th Jan 2019, 11:12 AM edit delete reply
The first High School Musical is honestly a guiltless pleasure.
Brigid 13th Jan 2019, 11:25 AM edit delete reply
I've seen To Sir, With Love! It's one of my mom's favorites.
ChaoticBrain 13th Jan 2019, 10:30 PM edit delete reply
The Breakfast Club.
Digo Dragon 14th Jan 2019, 8:46 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
The Breakfast club is a classic and on my top 10 recommends list.
Mandolin 12th Jan 2019, 11:52 AM edit delete reply
I’m with the DM on this one, Middle school was hell. High school... meh, there were a couple mean girls to deal with but it was nothing like middle school.

Most of my middle school tormentors went to different high schools, the remaining “in” crowd didn’t really follow the bullying route (or if they did they were a LOT more subtle and didn’t target me), and while I didn’t know it now, my stepsister might have had a lot to do with that
Mandolin 12th Jan 2019, 11:55 AM edit delete reply
Stupid iPad.

My pretty, popular, blonde stepsister was two years ahead of me and class president. Apparently when people started talking smack about me when we were both in high school, she gave them a lot of grief because “that’s my sister, back off.”

Didn’t know about this til years later but I suspect that had a lot to do with me largely not being bullied in high school. (There was this one girl in my year who tried but... it was kind of pathetic and she ended up making herself look crazy. Screaming at someone out of the blue in a crowded lunchroom to knock off their nervous habit makes you look like the nut job.)
Needling Haystacks 12th Jan 2019, 12:01 PM edit delete reply
Save for a few incidents, I guess I'm mostly on Discord's wavelength here. I don't know that I was so much "insufferable" as "aloof", though. At least that's how it came across. Privately I suppose I was more shy/socially awkward, but it looks much the same from the outside.

Middle school was a bit more annoying (well at least 6th grade was), but for very specific reasons, and much of that not actually IN school. Was gonna go into it but it'd take too long.
sun tzu 12th Jan 2019, 12:12 PM edit delete reply
As someone who went through the French school system... same boat as the GM: Middle school (grades 6 though 9) was hell. High school (grades 10 through 12), while it sometimes worked us to the point of exhaustion, was waaay better, with classmates that were a lot more mature and less cruel. (But that MIGHT be due to the specific high school I went to? Not sure.)
Crimson Dawn 12th Jan 2019, 12:14 PM edit delete reply
Huh I expected Pinkie to be in the marching band. Oh well.
MissFinefeather 12th Jan 2019, 12:21 PM edit delete reply
High School was hell, but entirely because of Middle School. My first year of middle school, I was bullied a lot, usually in class in front of the teacher (they've only ever got called out on it once, and that was just to warn them about the dangers of law suits.) Not to mention, I was dealing with undiagnosed garbage (suspecting dyslexia, still waiting for a diagnosis though,) so my grades were slipping.

The teachers saw my grades, saw how weird I was, and threw me into special ed, which in that school was just the place they locked away the disadvantage kids. You went to special classrooms where they taught you to count again, and english classes that insulted your intelligence. I was barred from reading a 5th grade level book because they didn't think I could read it. I internalized all of that, and I went on most of my life KNOWING I was dumb.

High school had me going back to normal classes, but the fact I was years behind everyone, the fact I still had undiagnosed garbage that made learning the way they wanted me to learn almost impossible, and the fact that I truly believed I didn't belong in those classes, just made high school a terrible experience for me.
Brigid 13th Jan 2019, 11:36 AM edit delete reply
I feel ya, though my experience is mainly with elementary school. I started out in a Catholic school because my family is Catholic, but it was also the only private school in the area so everyone with lots of money sent their kids there regardless of denomination. The teachers and aides must've been blind, too, 'cause they never noticed all the teasing.

Anyway, in that school I was in special ed, which was pretty much like regular ed except I spent one class period in this modified trailer behind the school playing board games with this lady who was *way* younger than any of the other teachers.

My parents moved me to the public school starting in third grade, where I had speech therapy (that solved one problem by giving me another) and *advanced* ed for one year. Which was the same as special ed except there were a few more kids and we did special research projects.

For various reasons, I elected to be home-schooled after 6th grade.

Found out *years* later that I have ADHD and Asperger's.
Archone 12th Jan 2019, 1:05 PM edit delete reply
Let's see...
Elementary: immediately shunted into special ed, where I would spend the day engaged in "group readings" with semiliterate classmates struggling to sound out the words to a heavily censored politically correct version of "Tom Sawyer" in which his nemesis was "Outlaw Joe," then I'd head home to borrow from my older brother's library. I read Anne McAffrey's "Dragonflight" on Saturday when I was eight, finished "Dragonquest" Sunday night (technically Monday, I stayed up past midnight), and agonized over school during the week because I wanted to go read "The White Dragon." Robert Heinlein, Harry Harrison, Piers Anthony... Elementary school was where I went to be reminded that I was stupid and it was okay for people to be nasty to me, before I could go home and devour a novel in a single day.
Archone 12th Jan 2019, 1:08 PM edit delete reply
Middle school: I got jumped by three boys in the bathroom. I left one face down in a toilet, one in a urinal, and stuffed the third into the big communal washbasin that public schools have. After which I was expelled, and ended up in a number of "special" schools. I particularly remember the one where the fences were twelve feet high, the gates were locked up, and the teachers were trained in submission holds and encouraged to not just bully us, but make it clear that we were only there because they couldn't legally send us to prison where we belonged (yes, this was a mostly black school during the 1990s, why do you ask?). Middle school students and high school students were both kept in the same school, so the kids my age got bullied by both older classmates AND teachers. I finally managed to convince my parents I feared for my life and they pulled me out of there two weeks before a student I knew got expelled for stabbing another student with a pair of scissors.
Archone 12th Jan 2019, 1:09 PM edit delete reply
High School: Growth spurt. Dual classed. I went to a public high school so I could fill in the heavyweight slot for their varsity wrestling team. The coach was constantly telling us that these were the best years of our life (because for him, everything after the time he made it to the State championships in his senior year was a downhill slide), and also warning us not to become the creepy old dude hanging around the high school trying to pick up teenagers (i.e. don't be like Edward from "Twilight"). The team captain was a bully who hated me, but was afraid to touch me and mostly acted through others. (Meanwhile, the other school was a private thing for students who were either too intelligent for public school, too disturbed, or both. It was actually quite nice. I liked my classmates, too)
Archone 12th Jan 2019, 1:11 PM edit delete reply
Oh, and in the years since then I learned that the entire public school experience was DESIGNED to be as unpleasant, soul destroying, and mind numbing as possible. It's based on the Prussian model meant to generate an obedient worker class:

http://www.forcedschool.com/post/69947261758/the-prussian-model

And the hell of it is, I'm not even trying to compete with anyone else who posted here. How can I, when TheStratoverian went to court? at least the teachers I dealt with never committed any actual felonies during school hours (even if they abused the hell out of any pretext to put us in a painful joint lock). I'm just saying: any of you who had unpleasant experiences in school... you have my sympathy AND my empathy. Especially since it's gotten even WORSE since we were kids, with the "zero tolerance" and the cops in the schools arresting and beating kids...
Brigid 13th Jan 2019, 11:49 AM edit delete reply
Yikes. And I though my school experience was bad. (Well, it was, but between you and dang near everyone else here, it sounds kinda pathetic.) Now, personally, I don't mind having cops in the schools. When I was growing up, I probably would've felt a lot safer if there was a cop around. Or any kind of security officer. Then again, I'm also from an area where the closest we usually get to police brutality is being a little overeager with enforcing traffic regulations.

I'm also lucky to have the parents that I do. Dad in particular let us know early on that these are *not* the best years of our lives. Anyone who says that either has a pair of seriously rose-tinted nostalgia glasses on or managed to royally screw up their adulthood.

Also wish I'd known about that whole Prussian model thing as a kid so I could shove it in the face of everyone who tried to coerce me back into public school. The main downside of home-schooling is dealing with everyone who thinks it's a bad idea.
Archone 13th Jan 2019, 1:10 PM edit delete reply
The problem with home-schooling is that, depending on the parents, it can leave the kids undereducated on subjects. I knew a guy whose parents homeschooled him because they felt there wasn't enough Jesus in the public schools. Then, when he went to visit some friends in another state, his mother went into his room and found condoms... and... gasp... DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS BOOKS! At which point they called him up and disowned him over the phone. Leaving him with no high school diploma, no place to live, no job prospects, and in another state. And getting his G.E.D. took a bit of work, because the science courses had consisted of "The Lord created the Earth in one week, and then scientists made up stuff about evolution because the Devil told them to."

But that being said, home schooling can indeed be a lot better, simply because a parent willing to put that much effort into it is also going to make certain it's the best education possible (in the parents' opinion, anyway).

But yes, the whole "Prussian model" thing makes having cops in the schools a very bad idea. At least when I was in school, the teachers couldn't call for the cops to come ARREST a kid for talking back. (Also, I didn't have to worry about being thrown down and pepper sprayed by an adult wearing a belt full of weapons and devices and itching for an excuse to use them)

...I think this sort of thing might be why dystopian fiction never appealed to me. "1984" was horrible, but the antagonists were both obviously stupid and all-too-familiar, while "Brave New World" seemed... kinda nice, actually. At least in Huxley's setting the leaders were genuinely committed to making sure all their people were happy and safe (even the dissidents).
Brigid 14th Jan 2019, 9:05 AM edit delete reply
Yeah, that can happen sometimes. Honestly, I don't know why people would even *expect* Jesus in a government run school. They have read the First Amendment, right? Sure, kids should be allowed to pray in school, but the government isn't supposed to endorse any religion.

The problem with not being able to provide a complete education, as opposed to being *unwilling* to provide one, is easily solved by hiring tutors. My mom and youngest sister make a bit of extra income by teaching a few classes to local home schoolers. This is, of course, dependent on the state *allowing* home school tutors. Not all do.

And, yeah, I really do wonder why dystopian fiction that was never intended for a young audience is required in high school. Isn't it bad enough having to *live* in a repressive environment. Though I found 'Brave New World' kinda creepy. Sure, people were happy, but it felt like a sort of strung-out-on-drugs kind of happy.

Out of order, but you make a good point with the Prussian model making a police presence in schools potentially problematic. Though I like to think most cops have the self-restraint and common decency *not* to abuse their power like that. We just hear about the bad ones in the news *because* it's shocking and unusual. Not to mention the anti-cop sentiment that's been popular among certain segments since at least the '60s.
Mr. Guy 12th Jan 2019, 2:12 PM edit delete reply
My mother actually worked at a rural high school of the same type when I was young. Admittedly it didn't have gates or fences like described, but the doors were locked and the kids were all multiple-time expels from the rest of the county schools. According to her most of the students just refused to learn or hated authority and only a few were actually disturbed. But since a student once came after her with scissors I am glad she had the submission training.
Mr. Guy 12th Jan 2019, 2:02 PM edit delete reply
I'm in the same boat as the DM. High school was great and middle school was the absolute worst. It's probably because my middle school was very small and I was the only weird kid. My high school was huge and stratified by academic achievement so I was far from the odd one out.
Hankroyd 12th Jan 2019, 2:08 PM edit delete reply
OK ... I'm feeling a little sick here.


I'm from France and ... Whoa ... as I said earlier ... my experience had good and bad but nothing traumatic ... there was bullies but it was once in a blue moon since they usually change victims very frequently so that the educationnal people don't catch them. And that was middle school.
Once in high school, all the bullying (physical or verbal) was completly gone. And it's not because I was in a high ranking University or anything.

I watched some american TV shows or movies with setting in High School and I was laughing, because the story was so stupidly wrong ... I though it was stupid the way bullies and posses was treated ... until today, litterally.

Seriously, what I read today is ... wow ... I am stunned by what a lot you gone through. A 'lot' of you, not a minority ... I got the feeling that being tortured is the norm. And it's very very sickening.

I was a teacher in the early '00 in a difficult zone ... even if there was fight and drugs problem, it was only a minority causing those problems.

I am ... i dunno ... I got the impression that I lived in a bubble that suddendly exploded to show me the harsh reality. I wouldn't have been able to survive to a tenth of what some of you went through.

Sorry if what I wrote seems stupid or whatever but I really wanted to say all of you who went throught that, you are fudging amazing to be able to survive through that.
Mr. Guy 12th Jan 2019, 2:21 PM edit delete reply
Keep in mind that many people will exaggerate, especially online. Even myself. When I call middle school 'the absolute worst' I just mean I was socially isolated, romantically rejected, and occasionally mocked. Not the the best circumstances you could wish for, but nowhere close to torture.

But I do appreciate your empathy.
Aohaku 12th Jan 2019, 5:32 PM edit delete reply
Most of what you'll read will be negative because people with negative experiences will usually be more vocal about it when prompted, and will usually focus on a particular incident. It will also vary from school-to-school.

Big ol' bag-o-salt required.
Tenkuu23 12th Jan 2019, 3:45 PM edit delete reply
OK, second attempt (did not realise that not being a ComicFire member resulted in a character limit).

In Primary School, I was basically the go-to person for help with Powerpoint and Excel, even among the teachers. I also used to get called out of my class to help other teachers sort out computer problems they were having. I doubt this happens nowadays, but in my last two years of Primary School, it just kept happening. Also out of the seven teachers I had while I was there, 3 of them left the year my class had them. It felt to me like my class was cursed. As for the other four, one went on to become the headmistress for the school, and my Reception (Kindergarten) teacher passed away just as I left Secondary School. That came as a shock.

Secondary is where I can remember a lot more stuff happening. Secondary School in the UK is based from Years 7 to 11, with Years 12 and 13 being additional ones that kids can opt-in to.

Year 7: One teacher got the sack for being openly sexist. When it came to his class, if a boy and a girl broke the same rule in the same way, the girl would get a much lighter punishment, usually a short talking to. The boy would get things such as detention.

There was also another time where my entire English class got a detention after school. Only me and two other people showed up, so the teacher let us off the hook. Everyone else had to do the detention over the lunch period.

Year 8: We got a new headmaster, who decided over the Easter break to scrap the summer uniform. This mainly was just swapping out the white shirt and tie for a navy polo shirt. The catch was that he decided to scrap this just as the summer uniform was kicking in, so it pissed off parents who had just bought the polo shirts only to find out that they weren't allowed anymore. We convinced him to let us have that summer with them, then from Year 9 onwards, it was the shirt and tie year-round.

Year 9: Back in the day, my school did Tuberculosis vaccinations once a year for the Year 9's. The catch for me was a massive fear of needles. So when my turn came around, my arm kept tensing up when the needle got close. They couldn't do the injection, so I was let off. The plan was to do it the following year, but the program got scrapped after my year. To this day, I still have not had that specific vaccination.

Year 10: I got glasses. I had two pairs, one with reactive lenses (The ones that go dark in sunlight) and one without. The plan was to switch to the non-reactive pair during the winter, so it didn't look like I was wearing sunglasses all the time. I ended up switching back to the reactive lenses after repeatedly blinding myself walking outside after a major snowfall, so we changed plans and kept the normal pair as a backup in case the reactive ones broke.

Also, at the end of the school year, my sister skipped the last day of school and completely forgot to track the time. I arrived home an hour after my sister was meant to (Mum knew I was coming home later than expected) only to find out my sister wasn't home yet and wasn't answering her phone.

It turned out she'd spent the day at a friend's house and, as mentioned earlier, had forgotten to keep track of the time. She wasn't allowed out on her own that summer as punishment for skipping school.

Year 11: I had two major events. First, I ended up either getting another kid expelled, or they were just moved to another class. Basically I tended to run jokes into the ground and then keep going. I've since gotten better about it. Well for me ended up royally pissing one guy off, and he decked me in the middle of class. Punched me square in the nose and left me with a black eye. He got sent to the headmaster and I never heard from him again.

Then came Valentine's Day. This has nothing to do with the holiday itself, it's just when this happened. The computers in my IT class were first-come, first-served. This time around I ended up sat next to one of the kids that only took this class to dick around on the computers. Well he spent the entire lesson doing nothing but interfering with my work. He tried to hit buttons on my keyboard, tried to turn my computer off, that sort of thing. Well when I tried to stop him I accidentally knocked him off his chair. He got moved to another part of the class and I thought that was the end of it.

Well that afternoon I had an extra lesson after school to help prepare for my German exam. There were three parts to the exam: Reading, Writing and Speaking. It was the third part that the extra lesson focused on. It was basically an hour after school every Wednesday for some of us to get some practice in. Well after that, we went home, and as I went to the bus stop, the kid from my IT class ambushed me along with two other guys. They beat me up, I managed to run into the school, and I had to give a statement. The headmaster was pissed at this happening because, as I said, it was an hour after school ended. They waited for an hour specifically to beat me up as I tried to head home. I ended up with two black eyes (one of them properly swollen) and some swelling on my forehead. The one guy I recognized got in trouble and was suspended for a week or two.

In Year 12, my school collaborated with another school to fill some classes since Sixth Form was Opt-In. We had to take a minibus to get from one school to the other. Well one day we decided (for some reason) to essentially smuggle one of the people in our minibus group (We'll call him Pete) from our school to the other one. Out of about 13 people on the minibus, only the driver (insurance reasons) and four students (the smugglers) knew Pete was there. I ended up having to take the blame when Pete let out a massive belch in the middle of the journey. On the plus side, when Pete stepped off the minibus at the other end, the confused reactions were fun to watch.

Outside of that moment, I was constantly having to deal with these two dickbags who did nothing but annoy and harass me outside of lessons. Because they didn't do anything that was outside the rules, I couldn't get a teacher to stop them. The one thing they did break rules for though, I just couldn't prove it to teachers. Basically one of them took to rubbing his crotch against my back. I pinned him against the wall one time just to get him to stop, but he kept doing it saying that 'I just wasn't comfortable with my sexuality'. I was glad to be rid of the two of them at the end of Year 13. Out of sight out of mind.

Then, nearly 10 years later, one of them appears in the news. The one that didn't rub his crotch on my back had been tried and arrested for child porn last summer. The people from my school started finding out in October. The scary part was that he'd been training to be a teacher.
Brigid 13th Jan 2019, 11:57 AM edit delete reply
You say 'nowadays' after talking about PowerPoint. When I was in elementary, the most advanced computers the school had were Apple IIs.
nlinzer 12th Jan 2019, 4:01 PM edit delete reply
I went t a highschool of 50 kids and it was like a second home. All the teachers were great, there was virtually no bullying(and the bullying that happened was snuffed out) and most of the students knew each other really well. Peopled were supernice and I no one was a social outcast(in fact the kid obsessed with Pac-Man and Angry-Birds was the closest we had to a popular kid(and he was nice to everyone always).I was really sad to have graduated
nlinzer 12th Jan 2019, 4:09 PM edit delete reply
It was a special ed school. So yeah Autism for the Win!
Brigid 13th Jan 2019, 11:59 AM edit delete reply
Small, specialized schools do seem to work best. Kinda wish we'd found out about the whole Asperger's thing with me back in elementary, though I don't know if it would've made much difference with the school.
nlinzer 12th Jan 2019, 4:03 PM edit delete reply
ignore the I in "and I no one"
DragonGeek 12th Jan 2019, 4:04 PM edit delete reply
I was homeschooled, so I can't really speak to the whole school situation, but Middle School was STILL absolute garbage. There's just something that happens to kids at that age that makes them all feel like they don't belong, like everyone else has their lives figured out and they're falling behind. Happened to me and all of my sisters.
THE OTHER GUEST 12th Jan 2019, 8:51 PM edit delete reply
Wow... Some of these stories...

I think I'll add my own, just to give something a bit on the other side of the spectrum.

My School "Career" was probably as close to " Average Small Town Northern US" schooling as you could probably imagine. Everyone knew most-each-other either from church, family connections, friends of family, or some combination thereof. That didn't stop there being cliques, but membership was fairly fluid and outright bullying was all but nonexistent because word traveled fast...

My "worst" grades were probably Kindergarten through 3rd, believe it or not. There were a couple kids who would harass me, I'd get the teacher, and as soon as the teacher's back was turned they'd be right back at it. By Second Grade I'd been diagnosed with a rather bad astigmatism and I'd gotten some grief for being "The Kid With Glasses", but by then I'd started figuring out how to blend into the background.

Third Grade I moved to a Charter School, which had class sizes so small they had to combine third and fourth, and fifth and sixth years into two classes. I got some grief because I was the "New Kid, but the teachers were also a lot more attentive in class, so most of the shenaniganry happened on the playground where there were too many kids for them to keep a close enough eye, and my Mom driving bus for the school helped keep after class incidents down.

By fifth grade I'd figured out how to get along with most of my peers, though I did get a couple detentions and suspensions for fights with one or two who I just couldn't get along with. "Why would I still classify KG-3rd Grade as worse than that" you might ask? Because it was Only those one or two (The other students happened to like both of us and were genuine enough to understand that the matters were between us and not to pick sides), and by then I was confident enough in myself to stand up for myself, and knew and accepted the administrative consequences of my retaliations as "Worth It", since ultimately it did get those other students off my back, and we eventually did find an understanding between one another.

High School, I moved back to Public School because I asked my parents to. My excuse was that I wanted to graduate from a larger school, but the reality was that the Charter School was Expanding, and a lot of the new teachers they were hiring for the last few years were rather... political... and I knew in a larger school I could more easily ignore that kind of BS (Not that it wouldn't happen, but that with a larger class to focus on it would be easier to be ignored so I could filter it out uninterrupted)...

My graduating class was still about ~40 or so, and for the most part I was off on my lonesome. The girls all politely hated me because I got the same grades as them (B Honor Roll every term, except for one where I managed to get on the A) even though I slept through most of our classes, and the other guys didn't really get me, because I wasn't into sports, booze and parties, and was more interested in mathematics, computers and writing than any of them were. I made it through because I learned how to blend into the background and be ignored unless I wanted to be noticed, and for the times when I couldn't such as Study Hall, I was really, Really good at ignoring the impotent bleating of my classmates heckling.
recentteen14 12th Jan 2019, 9:14 PM edit delete reply
For me, Elementary wasn't too bad - Worst incidents were that one time my first enemy tried to cut one of my fingers off with those crappy scissors kids get for art projects, in front of the class no less. Teacher had a hell of a time with that one. Other incident to note was learning what the middle finger was during 5th grade... By a classmate telling me to 'Do this' immediately telling, and getting me kicked out of class despite being obviously confused about it. Bright side it got me out of a crap test I wasn't prepared for.

Middle School was hell on Earth, had it not been for me making a couple of friends, getting an Aspergers diagnosis, a 504, and a retired teacher coming in to meet with me regularly, I wouldn't be here today. I was stupidly suicidal due to all the bullying back then, its a wonder I made it thru.

High School had some bullying early on, but I quickly found solace in the library, finding out about manga and learning how to both read during class and pay attention to the lesson at the same time. Sure, I did get a couple of kids expelled for kicking me in the balls right after that went no tolerance, but that was the last bullying incident. I went to the land of 'Looks too oblivious, not worth messing with' when in reality I was probably one of the people most aware of my surroundings without anyone realizing it- go figure.
Winged Cat 13th Jan 2019, 12:46 AM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Since we're sharing...

Mostly in Discord's camp here. School wasn't heaven or hell, it just was.

Managed to skip a grade in elementary school. That got me marked "special", as in "special ed", which in my district's case was for both above and below average types: everyone who was sufficiently "special". Cue daily boredom until they realized that wasn't helping, and that shifting me into advanced classes worked better, which set the pace for middle and high school. My schools also got used as guinea pigs for educational technology, which meant I sometimes got to play games as part of class.

I volunteered for the student guard for a while (just some kids who looked out for people crossing traffic during lunch and recess, and got safety vests to wear while doing so), tried chess club until I got bored after the Scholar's Mate won too often, hung around student government a bit, skipped out of drafting class when they insisted that hand drawing was the all and everything (I sucked at that, and I knew CAD was the immediate future), got "suspended" (or so my parents thought, until the school called a couple days later to ask why I wasn't showing up) for defending myself when someone threw punches at me, intimidated and scared off the local bullies without realizing until months later they had even attempted to threaten me, self-taught basic martial arts (following that realization) that (fortunately) have never have seen much actual use save for exercise (I'm still able to throw over 100 punches in 60 seconds, though they're mostly jabs), almost skipped a second grade, loaded up on AP and college courses toward the end, and never was the most social (science, technology, and coming up with stories just being so much more interesting than romance) though I was sexually harassed a bit (only notable incident: a gang of 4 girls mobbed me and felt up my legs while I was focused on something, then fled before I processed what was going on).

I suppose I lacked a frame of reference for school to be much better or worse than. Then again, I look back at the kids who would have had other frames of reference, and many of them seemed to lead lives outside of school (evenings, weekends, and breaks) that I would have found boring. (Monotonous work, being stoned, et cetera.)
Ebony Sable 13th Jan 2019, 1:27 AM edit delete reply
I was bullied through two primary schools - some of it may have been me misinterpreting normal social interactions, but there's no way to misinterpret being spat on. This got me dragged literally kicking and screaming to the principal's office on a regular basis. This is about when I was diagnosed with Asperger's, which took another 10ish years before I could lessen its effect on my life.
I went to a tiny special needs school for a year in an attempt to teach me to not overreact with violence. It didn't work, because then I started middle school.
I was bullied there as well, and I couldn't stop myself lashing out. I got detentions and I think I got an in-house suspension once. I was left out of at least two major events because no-one thought I could cope (they were probably right).
Finally, high school. I had no friends, only a couple of classmates I got on with. I spent all my time as isolated as I could manage. I would eat my morning tea quickly, then sit outside my next class drawing or reading. Lunch I would eat on the way to the library, where I would hide in a book until it was time for class. The librarians knew me so well I didn't need my ID card to borrow books.
No more bullying in high school, just social exclusion (they claimed it was an accident...), depression (possibly, it was only diagnosed in retrospect), OCD (diagnosed much later), Asperger's, suicidal thoughts (really just a cry for help, thankfully), and probably other things that I have both repressed and suppressed.
nlinzer 13th Jan 2019, 5:02 AM edit delete reply
What school did you go to because it would be really cool if we knew eachother but because it's the internet we didn't recognize eachother(I went to Aaron School)
Ebony Sable 13th Jan 2019, 2:58 PM edit delete reply
I definitely never went to a school by that name. I don't think we're even in the same country.
Brigid 14th Jan 2019, 9:16 AM edit delete reply
Here's a digital hug: ()

I really feel for you. I've got Asperger's, too, though my case wasn't diagnosed until my twenties. I just spent my childhood knowing there was something wrong with either me or the rest of the world. Either way, I was different and I had no idea why and couldn't convince most adults that there even *was* a difference. Also have clinical depression, thankfully without suicidal thoughts though it has cropped up with other members of my family.

Like you, I probably misinterpreted a lot of normal social interactions as malicious. This almost certainly *lead* to real malicious actions like gaslighting and leaving tacks on my chair. Also like you, the library was a refuge. The public library, anyway. The school library was fine as long as I didn't have to interact with the librarian. Pretty sure she hated kids, though as an adult I suspect she also had medical problems and may simply have been fed up with the noise and book-abuse.
Enigmatic Jack 13th Jan 2019, 6:45 PM edit delete reply
I had a pretty good time in high school. Had a few football players who had problems with me, but I was 6'2" and sturdy built so nobody really bullied me too much. I was one of those guys who had friends in every click, and had the highest ACT score in the school (we did ACT, not SAT). It wasn't until college that I had a bit of a breakdown because my roommate in the dorms threatened to kill me and nobody took me seriously when I told people about it.
SeventhZephyr 14th Jan 2019, 5:37 AM edit delete reply
Last two panels:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyyNJHwoEwQ&feature=youtu.be&t=112
Wrat 14th Jan 2019, 2:53 PM edit delete reply
It's the strangest thing. I cannot remember anything that happened during all four years of High School, and anytime I ask people who were there with me, they just awkwardly laugh and try to change the subject. I think it was probably ordinary.
Guest 15th Jan 2019, 12:46 AM edit delete reply
This reminds me I have 10 pages of essay to write for midnight today.

*sigh* University can be its own kind of hell.
Hariman 15th Jan 2019, 3:06 AM edit delete reply
Suddenly... a frank discussion of the hell our cast went through during the nightmare known as High School.
Robin Bobcat 15th Jan 2019, 5:46 PM edit delete reply
Hmm.. Let's see here.. Nothing *horrible*, honestly. I was a computer geek, and therefore not popular, but I wasn't actively persecuted. I was part of a computer club that had a great deal of fun on lunch break.
I did have a horrible teacher - Mister White. Two years from retirement and completely unable to give a damn about anything. I credit him with my being unable to learn Trig properly for a while.