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Newbiespud 7th Mar 2019, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Now, before you ask, no, our players aren't going to see the one BIG spoiler that the second scenario implies.

Though can you tell I can't wait to rid myself of that restriction?? How have I made it seven and a half years so far with mainly now-one-third of the series?!

Anyway, Story Time about next-generation campaigns or sequel-with-new-characters campaigns? Have we already done that one? I'm sure it's come up...

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Bed Head 7th Mar 2019, 6:23 AM edit delete reply
Every campaign I've run since my first Pathfinder campaign (The Carrion Crown AP for those curious) has been a "next-generation" game because of one character: Spider Castle.

This was the game that introduced one of my friends to D&D-style roleplaying games, and like most players he decided to make something fun and over-the-top. In his case he wanted a bard, but someone that acts more like a rock star than the traditional "Lute and poetry" kind. He was tough, good in a fight, enchanted his lute to sound like an electric guitar, wore spiked leather armor, and (as bards are want to do) slept with anything that had two legs and a nice rack.

Yes, the saying is normally "Two legs and a pulse", but considering he got it on with a vampire...

At anyrate, that was just my friend being my friend. However, literally every character he's made since then (and a few characters other players in my group made) have been descendants (usually bastard children) of Spider Castle. I ran a pirate game, three of the PC's were unknowingly half-siblings (an Aasimar, a Tiefling, and a Half-orc). For the "Jade Regent" adventure path we got an Oread (basically part earth-elemental) samurai. Now I'm running a Starfinder campaign where two of the PC's are very (very very very...) distantly related because of their connection to Spider Castle.

It's a running joke around my tables now. Any human or human-descended character could be what we've dubbed a "Spider Spawn". Any my group and I think it's the most hilarious thing ever.
Platonix 7th Mar 2019, 6:57 AM edit delete reply
Early in the 4e module "Thunderspire Labyrinth", the party encounters a group of slavers called the Blood Reavers. In my group, after the PCs finished killing every last Blood Reaver in the Blood Reaver base, they decided this meant the PCs now owned both the base and the title of Blood Reavers. From that day forward, the Blood Reavers Adventurer's Guild and Real Estate Agency was born; the group would invade the lairs of evil NPCs and organizations in the course of their adventures, then clean up the lairs and rent them out to hopefully-less-evil tenants.

Most parties we put together in 4e or Pathfinder are now, by default, junior members of the Blood Reavers Adventurer's Guild.
Digo Dragon 7th Mar 2019, 7:04 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Wait, subsequent parties are automatically made junior members of the guild? Are you saying that future parties are given... BRAGing rights? :3
Borg 7th Mar 2019, 11:37 AM edit delete reply
I hate you and I love you.
ANW 7th Mar 2019, 7:29 AM edit delete reply
Poll time.
Favorite main group.
Mane 7(spike included)
Young 6
CMC
High 7
Classic Steve 7th Mar 2019, 8:45 AM edit delete reply
By "High 7" you mean the ancients? Eh, I still have to go with the Mane 7. Especially if you're not including Starlight.
albedoequals1 7th Mar 2019, 11:26 AM edit delete reply
albedoequals1
CMC

It breaks my heart that they went straight from up-and-coming to retired-has-beens with only a couple of episodes in-between. The young 6 focus really ruined everything else.
Digo Dragon 7th Mar 2019, 11:36 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
I'm writing in my own candidate--the Where 4 (Trixie, Starlight, Thorax, and Discord). Think their two-parter finale recaptured the thrill of adventure and saving the world. Plus a small group meant they had more interaction time together.
albedoequals1 7th Mar 2019, 12:05 PM edit delete reply
albedoequals1
I'm changing my answer to what Digo said. That episode was what I wish the whole show was like.
CharginChuck 7th Mar 2019, 11:48 AM edit delete reply
CharginChuck
No love for the HuMane 7?
Rastaba 7th Mar 2019, 1:51 PM edit delete reply
Rastaba
Apparently not. HuManes need love too!
ANW 7th Mar 2019, 2:30 PM edit delete reply
That what the high 7 is.
High school.
And yes that's the one I like.
Anvildude 7th Mar 2019, 2:47 PM edit delete reply
Poor Sunset. Though, to be honest, I much prefer the various fan-interpretations you find in EQG fanfics. I've personally found the EQG fanfics to be higher-quality, overall, than the regular pony ones (though both have their goods and bads) and the FiM show to be better overall than the EQG movies and shorts.
Auren Dawnstar 8th Mar 2019, 8:38 PM edit delete reply
Mane 7 hands (or hooves I suppose) down for me.

They are the main reason I got hooked on the show in the first place after all, and kept me hooked over the years. Even if the last couple seasons have been a bit rough for them, the recent trailers have me hopeful for one last great season for them as the show comes to a close.
Dakkath 9th Mar 2019, 1:26 AM edit delete reply
Gotta go with the mane 7 and student 6. The princess trio sadly doesn't do anything.
ZamuelNow 7th Mar 2019, 7:52 AM edit delete reply
I'd argue that the first third of the series had a lot of good content. The roadblock to crossing over would be Twilight since it would cut off usage of screens with her prior to that.
Winged Cat 7th Mar 2019, 11:51 AM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Which is why I suspect NS may be using this to set up for that transition. Twilight's rebuild happens to give her flying (perhaps as a feat), fluffing as backstory that this was a reward for beating Discord - and the others got their own rewards. Perhaps:

Rarity gets unofficial sanction and support to expand the Thieves' Guild.

RD gets into the Wonderbolts, and begins her military career (in a fashion leaving her mainly free for adventures, thus maybe her official duties are limited to a public performing squadron).

AJ and FS settle for primarily financial rewards, their side businesses taking on more national importance. This would set up nicely for AJ helping set up Appleloosa - and of course her friends are welcome to come along and help. FS's expanded resources and fame get her a broader variety of cases to deal with, potentially leading to Flutterbat when she's in a mischievous mood.

PP has Celestia's gratitude, and that's aaall she needs (she says, with a cackle in her voice that unnerves the others; in truth she's just banking on "the god-ruler thinks you are competent, of good character, and a friend" proving useful in several unplannable ways).
Derpmind 7th Mar 2019, 7:55 AM edit delete reply
I love the silly imagery of the two books. Anyways, don't sweat not using all the lore of the series. The "school of friendship" is stuff I've never even seen before, but that won't stop me from enjoying your comic. Canon is not an obligation. More of a... suggestion. :P
Digo 8th Mar 2019, 12:52 PM edit delete reply
The first book looks like the condition of my old AD&D 2e and the second one is like... Exalted 3rd. XD
albedoequals1 7th Mar 2019, 11:16 AM edit delete reply
albedoequals1
The ponyfinder game I'm currently running is a sequel. The player characters are all kids of the previous party. The parents are all rich retired adventurers, national heroes, highly respected members of their community...and recently went missing (dun dun dunnn).

It's been fun so far, but I'm realizing that making the new PCs family of the old PCs was actually a mistake. It turns out that one of the most critical defining moments for a party is when they first meet. When the party already know each other, some of that important first impression stuff gets skipped. Supposedly that already happened long ago, but it effectively doesn't happen at all. So the party made of childhood friends ironically tends to be kind of cold.
albedoequals1 7th Mar 2019, 11:37 AM edit delete reply
albedoequals1
Ooh, I have a second answer to the storytime prompt. Is that allowed? :p

In the MMO Champions Online (CO), my siblings and I started a supergroup (guild) and came up with this whole backstory for how all our characters at that time could be part of it. Basically, the leader's superpowers included the ability to create inter-dimensional portals, allowing him to recruit talented individuals from any setting.

We soon realized that this explanation would theoretically allow us to recruit literally anyone, anywhere. As a result, that faction has grown outside the limits of CO. There are now characters in CO, Star Trek Online, Neverwinter, World of Warcraft, Guild Wars 2, Star Wars the Old Republic, 5E, Pathfinder, and Ponyfinder that are all part of our secret society. There are about 150 total characters from just the three of us. :p
ZamuelNow 8th Mar 2019, 5:34 AM edit delete reply
A fellow CO player? Nice!
albedoequals1 8th Mar 2019, 11:48 PM edit delete reply
albedoequals1
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CO is terrible, but I love it. I'm pretty sure it's the only game that lets you save the world as both a giant robot and a squirrel.

It's probably safe here to admit that I have several pony characters in it. Not anthro either, actual quadrupeds.
Winged Cat 7th Mar 2019, 12:51 PM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
In one campaign, I played the only male PC. We half-jokingly decided the rest of the party was kind of his anime-style harem - not officially dating, but occasionally getting into hijinks (such as his parents, and the parents of two other PCs who were sisters, deciding he should marry one of them).

When it came time to make another campaign elsewhere in that world (the southern hemisphere, where the first had been in the northern), I decided to make my PC another prospective suitor, who my first PC simply had not noticed (his time and attention already occupied), which broke my second PC's heart enough that she ran half a world away, having adventures to forget her past. (This also explained how magic from the first campaign came to the second: the two PCs studied at the same university and thus had similar spellbooks. The second setting found different uses for them, though.)
Rastaba 7th Mar 2019, 2:00 PM edit delete reply
Rastaba
Which big spoiler? Is it about how the elements came from a magic tree? Or maybe about how all dragons are subject to the dragon king who had a super nifty magic staff? Maybe the spoiler about how Pinkie really misuses a magical artifact and causes the Pinkiepocalypse? No, wait! It’s about how the mayor’s not a natural grey, isn’t it?!?

Seriously there’s a lot of (relatively) big spoilers down the line that are way bigger then something like Twilight becoming a princess or something 3rd season finale like that.
ANW 7th Mar 2019, 2:34 PM edit delete reply
You know what, I'm calling this, right here right now.
Twilight becomes an alicorn to defeat Discord.
Or defeating him triggers the change.
GrayGriffin 7th Mar 2019, 6:21 PM edit delete reply
GrayGriffin
If it's the latter, why do I get the feeling the new Changelings are going to be designed by Pinkie Pie, and the poor DM is going to have to figure out how to integrate that?

Also, it wasn't quite a next-gen campaign, but for an arena-style PTU game, I ended up creating multiple characters, all potential descendants of my character from the first game. Though one of them was based on an AU instead of the actual events of the game.
Enigmatic Jack 7th Mar 2019, 8:41 PM edit delete reply
I once did something kind of like this in two different campaigns that the same DM ran around the same time as each other (I think that one started up as an alternate game a few months after the first started). In the first, I was one of the leaders of the Queen's Guard for a faction of elves that was created by the DM for the game's setting. I was sent on a quest by the Queen to secure a relic and do a few other quest-type things.

The other game was a different setting, where the party was a group of outlaws. I was one of the outlaws, a disgraced former member of the Queen's Guard from that same faction of elves. I wrote that character up as the first character's brother, even though that was just going to be story fluff in my backstory.

Until I found out later that the two campaigns were competing for the same relic.
Enigmatic Jack 7th Mar 2019, 8:45 PM edit delete reply
I guess there's also something of a generational aspect to the Shadowrun game I'm currently playing (and have been off and on for about 3 years now.) The characters aren't directly related, but the PCs of previous campaigns are all around in each successive campaign.

The chronology goes mostly in order, so the PCs of the first game were well established by the time the second game started. The one we're doing now is about 4 or 5 "generations" in, so the party from that first big campaign has been an established force in the game world for years and years. I think we even have a few contacts that were part of those teams.
Naimah 8th Mar 2019, 6:02 PM edit delete reply
I have a strange little homebrew system I run called Adventures in Oddness, and each new game of it uses the previous game to build lore, with recurring NPCs, player-made settlements, and stuff like that. My favourite carryover was a lamia archer named Tsaiyu, who became a famous adventurer.
No Smolder? 8th Mar 2019, 6:15 PM edit delete reply
Did no one notice there is no Smolder?
Solitary Performance 8th Mar 2019, 9:26 PM edit delete reply
The closest I get to that is arguably anything in the Ponyfinder pathfinder setting that is after the doppleganger (changelings, except not bugs) home city is situated. Because I get to play a Solitary Performance at that point. He's a canon character to the setting, did his thing, so anyone after that part could be him... could be a descendant... could be another dopple filling in to make sure there's always this legendary stage performer bard about, so no one attacks the city in fear of this mythic, potentially multi-century old Pegasus bard coming back and putting on a performance to ruin their day...

And if I'm not doing another incarnation of Sol, I've got a good chance that I'm doing someone who's gonna end up part of his stage crew. I've got a dopplegryph (hippogryph with the pony end actually being doppleganger) alchemist named Silent Pizzazz, who will end up doing a good line in stage effects; and a unicorn dopple ninja named Backdrop... she's a stage ninja (and, obviously, a real one).
TenMihara 14th Mar 2019, 4:21 PM edit delete reply
So! My Sunday group had a big achievement last August when we, after two and a half years of playing online, completed a campaign (Specifically Shattered Star, the Pathfinder AP). I learned not long before the end of that campaign that the next PF AP was Return of the Runelords, which was completing the 'trilogy' of the Runelord related campaigns after Shattered Star and Rise of the Runelords. So, my group decided to make a party of offspring for the sequel.

The Daughter of our Summoner is the Party's Oracle Necromancer, the Daughter of a redeemed Alu-Demon and the group's Inquisitor is a Tiefling Bloodrager, the son of our First Gen Half-Elf Alchemist is a Second Gen Half-Elf Grenadier, and the daughter of an elf Yamasoth Cultist is a Conjurer/Cleric/Mystic Theurge.

The Theurge is our token Lawful Teammate.
Chimerat 16th Mar 2019, 9:15 AM edit delete reply
Interesting for one-shot campaigns... Though I do hope they return to 4e afterward. :p