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Newbiespud 6th Aug 2019, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Speaking from recent personal experience, when you've been the diplomancer your entire career, sometimes you gotta see what it's like to be the agent of chaos for a change.

Anyway, there's a Spudventure in the pipeline, but my aging computer is having trouble getting the podcast and video out, so I'm pushing the release back to Thursday.

38 Comments:

Greenhornet 6th Aug 2019, 6:18 AM edit delete reply
GM has placed PC in a moral dilemma.
PC: "This is a difficult decision!"
GM: "Yes, the social implications--"
PC: "Should I use lightning or fireball?"
GM: Wait WHAT?"
FanOfMostEverything 6th Aug 2019, 6:26 AM edit delete reply
Depends. Are the people involved in the dilemma arranged in a line or a clump?
Jason Shadow 6th Aug 2019, 6:30 AM edit delete reply
See, that's the tricky part - it's kind of a line-shaped clump. Like, two or three people wide, but a fair bit longer than the diameter of a standard fireball.
Guest 6th Aug 2019, 6:41 AM edit delete reply
Cone of Cold
CCC 6th Aug 2019, 8:36 AM edit delete reply
"Stone Call" has twice the diameter of fireball and is one level lower. Admittedly, it does less damage, but if you want to hit everyone...
andreas002 6th Aug 2019, 9:13 AM edit delete reply
andreas002
It's also amazing as a Dazing Spell. Level 5 spell that dazes (no actions) opponents for 2 rounds in a 40ft radius AOE is great.

It also makes the entire AOE difficult terrain, so anyone that saves is still going to lose a turn or two moving to the party. Spell Resistance: No. Almost nothing is immune to Daze.
Albert 6th Aug 2019, 5:02 PM edit delete reply
My apologies, could you specify which system you're describing Stone Call from? That doesn't match the description of what I've been able to find.
torquelift 6th Aug 2019, 6:58 PM edit delete reply
Looks like it's from Pathfinder.
Albert 7th Aug 2019, 3:44 AM edit delete reply
I found it in Pathfinder, yes. It's second level, does 2d6 damage, and makes the terrain difficult.

I'm looking for the level 5 version that dazes targets for 2 rounds.
you know that guy 7th Aug 2019, 3:50 AM edit delete reply
Dazing Spell is probably a +3 metamagic.
andreas002 7th Aug 2019, 8:33 AM edit delete reply
andreas002
Yeah, I was talking about using it with the Dazing Spell Metamagic.
werefrog 8th Aug 2019, 4:22 AM edit delete reply
Ah, that reminds The Werefrog of the time The Werefrog killed a dragon with a daze spell.

The dragon was swooping down to attack, but was taking a full turn to build up speed. Then, before it could open its wings the following turn, daze, and the dragon proceeded to faceplant into some concrete with the falling damage of over 100 feet, but it was greater than normal 100 foot fall damage since the dragon went down head first in a manner that was faster than normal falling.
Guest 6th Aug 2019, 6:48 AM edit delete reply
There's a difference between being an agent of chaos and "kill everyone", though.

In any case, that dungeon is doing its job, given the Sorcerer just spent her highest-level spell slot.
Alias Unknown 7th Aug 2019, 9:17 PM edit delete reply
Except Sorcerers at lvl 5 can cast 3 3rd lvl spells if they're willing to sacrifice their Metamagic and breaking the illusion, which I think is "Programmed Illusion", is a 3rd lvl spell anyway, therefore you might as well blow things up.
Guest 6th Aug 2019, 6:55 AM edit delete reply
I wonder what the DM was expecting here, though. "Oh yeah, I've established dragons are quick to anger and have no care about harming others. Now let's put this one in a place she hates with purposefuly annoying NPCs, I'm sure she'll be nice."

Methink DM had, once again, planned this for the player more than for the (admitedly not well-defined) character.

Then again she might just intent touse Fireball on the table then intimidate the ponies. Drama loves a fake-out, after all.
JoeHow 6th Aug 2019, 9:12 AM edit delete reply
I feel like Rainbowdash's player would be proud if she wasn't in mortal danger at the moment.
Digo 6th Aug 2019, 9:44 AM edit delete reply
I'm never the agent of chaos because the groups I always find myself in are all agents of chaos and if there isn't one voice of reason then we're all going to jump into a tpk situation faster than you can say saving throw.

So, yeah, I don't get much chance to be the wild one of the group. I have no idea if I'd find it fun, but I certainly wouldn't want to be pigeonholed into the same position in the party dynamic every time. I guess I just haven't found the right group yet. ...in the 23+ years looking. XD
Anvildude 6th Aug 2019, 12:31 PM edit delete reply
You looking for a group right now? I've got a sort-of opening. 4 players, but schedule is potentially up-in-the-air in the future for some of them, and I'd rather have 5 players or 3 players than potentially have only 2.

Of course, I have no idea how to privately contact you...
Malroth 6th Aug 2019, 3:39 PM edit delete reply
Malroth
With a wierd enough build anyone can be both the agent of chaos and the voice of reason at the same time. My last character was a Lawful Evil Telepath housecat. Most of the time I was finding interesting places to nap and small creatures to devour while the party was in combat and outside of combat I was the scout, spying on absoutely everything through the eyes of charmed critters while simultaneously acting as the hub of a trans dimensional psycic comm network.
Mordenheim 6th Aug 2019, 10:23 AM edit delete reply
Mordenheim
Sometimes the diplomancer IS the agent of chaos...

*walks away, whistling innocently*
Winged Cat 6th Aug 2019, 10:31 AM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Was this comic perhaps inspired by a certain recent fireball meme?
Space Jawa 6th Aug 2019, 10:50 PM edit delete reply
Here I was expecting something related to the Cr** Guide to D&D Wizard episode.
Newbiespud 7th Aug 2019, 7:23 AM edit delete reply
Newbiespud
<facepalm> Jawa, if you censor "Crap," it just looks like something else.
GrayGriffin 8th Aug 2019, 2:11 AM edit delete reply
GrayGriffin
I mean, it's pretty obvious from context? That other c-word really doesn't get used as an adjective at all.
Guest 8th Aug 2019, 3:30 AM edit delete reply
It does, though.

"It was a real c*** move, Snorri."
GrayGriffin 8th Aug 2019, 7:37 PM edit delete reply
GrayGriffin
...I've literally never heard it used in that context. I've only heard "di** move".
vegetalss4 6th Aug 2019, 11:55 AM edit delete reply
I mean these are presumably just illusions rather than real people, so it's not like trying to break through it is *that* unreasonable.
Freelance 6th Aug 2019, 12:06 PM edit delete reply
Eh, My Diplomancer was a CG Swashbuckler/Rogue Halfling. My role after that was a LN Monk Maedar
FIRE FIRE FIRE 6th Aug 2019, 12:59 PM edit delete reply
In case of doubt, use FIRE on everything... That is the dragon solution after all... Maybe someone have a story of a player trying to use fire on every problem?
albedoequals1 7th Aug 2019, 5:53 AM edit delete reply
albedoequals1
I was in a group with a guy that used fire on things that were immune to fire...for several consecutive turns. Let's just say he had rather poor pattern recognition. :p
werefrog 8th Aug 2019, 4:23 AM edit delete reply
The Werefrog once did that. However, fire was the only tool of that character. After 3 turns, the fire was then used on surrounding area instead of the actual opponent. A falling beam does damage. Burning through the floor to make the other guy fall also does damage.
Kedamono 6th Aug 2019, 1:16 PM edit delete reply
Time to break into song: (Tune of Thunderball)

She always runs while others walk
She acts while other ponies talk
She looks at this world and once in all
So she strikes with a Fireball!
steeevee 6th Aug 2019, 1:48 PM edit delete reply
this is one of my main OC's entire mindset.

problem exists?
kill it.

he then teaches said mindset to loads of others. even those you really woulnt expect to as he ... 'ecounters' a lot of chareters from kiddie TV shows.
Dakkath 6th Aug 2019, 10:25 PM edit delete reply
Ah, fireball. The solution to most of life's problems.

Granted, sometimes it causes additional problems after use, but then you just need more fireball.
CCC 8th Aug 2019, 1:02 AM edit delete reply
As Vaarsuvius put it here: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0696.html

"As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero."
Guest 8th Aug 2019, 3:31 AM edit delete reply
Mephistopheles echoed that thought in the "Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes".
Hariman 6th Aug 2019, 11:39 PM edit delete reply
Tea drinking mare, post fireball: *Blows out the fire that's on top of the teacup* "Well! That was rather gauche! But the tea is nice and warm, and you're still quite welcome to join us."
Guest 8th Aug 2019, 3:39 AM edit delete reply
"How did *you* get chosen for the pony friendship school with that attitude?"

"There was a wrestling competition to see who would be sent there. I lost."