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Newbiespud 20th Aug 2019, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Scrapped line:
"Aww, look at da widdle muwdewhobo..."

I just love the idea of illusions that have somehow rapidly conquered existentialism and also regularly talk with the other illusions in the dungeon.

25 Comments:

ANW 20th Aug 2019, 6:10 AM edit delete reply
If your character was under this illusion, what would they be facing?
andreas002 20th Aug 2019, 6:56 AM edit delete reply
andreas002
A Bunyip (picture). These shark/seal abominations are only Challenge Rating 3, but they've already caused 2 almost-TPKs (1 PC lived) across multiple campaigns for me. Nobody ever put points into swim, you can't cast spells underwater, and once the healer goes down, bleed damage will finish off everyone left. The second time was after we just annihilated a CR 6 boss with little effort.

Underwater combat sucks.
Freelance 20th Aug 2019, 1:23 PM edit delete reply
NEVER put your character into an aquatic setting without getting some skills in swimming--you know the DM is going to set a battle out there one way or another.
andreas002 20th Aug 2019, 2:18 PM edit delete reply
andreas002
In neither case was it intended to be an aquatic setting, or at least we didn't know long enough ahead of time that we might need to go underwater to put ranks in Swim for it.
First time was a cave underneath our actual target which was partially filled with water, and the second time rising water flooded the only way out after retrieving the artifact of doom.
Freelance 22nd Aug 2019, 2:40 AM edit delete reply
That was more general advice than specifically for your case. But yeah, I think The Spoony One once had an episode of Counter Monkey that dealt with, "STAY OFF THE BOAT!!!" Pretty much because hardly anybody puts ranks in swim and would be at a disadvantage against all the water-based creatures, anyways.
THE OTHER GUEST 20th Aug 2019, 7:30 AM edit delete reply
Dire Weasel...
Digo 20th Aug 2019, 8:26 AM edit delete reply
The illusions would be unemployed as there is no better torture than the real world existence of working a boring job to pay bills just to have a day off to sleep in and then cycle it again, except, oh yes, you also ate working on your day off anyway.

The illusions can kiss my cutie mark. :P
BackSet 20th Aug 2019, 8:33 AM edit delete reply
Heretical Vampires that she can't kill due to social obligation.
Greenhornet 20th Aug 2019, 8:42 AM edit delete reply
If the goal was to terrify, it would be a hospital. My GURPS Cliffhanger character is terrified of staying in a hospital. She WILL seek treatment if nessisary, but will not stay overnight.
The reason is that as a young girl, she had watched her mother die of TB so she associates hospitals with death.
tipulsar85 20th Aug 2019, 9:34 AM edit delete reply
I asked around, the following is their reply:
Heinlein Siannodel (Elven Planeswalker): "The short version, have you seen a whole town of ghosts stuck in living purgatory because of two brothers and a demon? I have."
Poule (Tiefling Combat Artificer): "I'm not trying to be antisocial, but I have been stuck in committee meetings that have had less substance than this. I got more designs done that way. Also the Warden class ship chunk on Sunder has a functioning holodeck."
Searet (Human hacker): "Ask me a gain when [Spoiler message deleted]."
Winged Cat 20th Aug 2019, 10:14 AM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
The most recent D&D character I played? (A silver dragonborn unsure if she was white or silver, and cursed/blessed to become a full dragon should she live 100 years.) Her future self as a raging, out-of-control white dragon, slaying entire towns in passing and not caring.
CCC 20th Aug 2019, 11:17 AM edit delete reply
A whole bunch of people who stubbornly *pity* her for her inability to do as much magic as *they* can...
CrowMagnon 20th Aug 2019, 4:25 PM edit delete reply
For Chekyl the tengu alchemist, it would be the red skeletons from Castlevania. He's a Pharasma worshipper (Pathfinder goddess of death and fate, who is anti-undead) so skellies that keep regenerating no matter how hard they get bombed would be... annoying, even if they weren't much of a damage threat to him.

For Brenna Sloane, human constable, it would be her uncle Mac, a con-man who raised her until she was twelve, then abandoned her. Lady's got issues about that guy, and having an un-punchable version of him show up and start psychologically working on her would be rough, to say the least.
FanOfMostEverything 20th Aug 2019, 7:16 AM edit delete reply
Wrong 3rd-level spell. If you really want to threaten a self-aware illusion, break out dispel magic.
Winged Cat 20th Aug 2019, 10:11 AM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Once you know they are self-aware. Though, being not-alive and knowing they existed for this one purpose anyway, do they fear destruction?
A Guest 20th Aug 2019, 8:26 AM edit delete reply
Speaking of illusions, this reminds me of conversations I've had with a couple of my players about the ethics of using the Simulacrum spell. I concluded that in order to mitigate any weird feelings, I would as DM run all simulacrum as being deeply enthusiastic about their likely destiny: dying in place of the adventurer they're a copy of.

"Ooh, do I get to take a killing blow in your place today? How fun!

"By the way, are there any dramatic last words you'd like me to say, or secret truths I should confess when I die?

"Just PROMISE me you'll conjure the appropriate mood lighting when it happens!"
Guest 21st Aug 2019, 2:59 AM edit delete reply
Feel like "Simulacrums aren't sapient not have any will on their own" would be more efficient for the no-guilt thing.

Uh, a fun idea could be PCs finding a Simulacrum whose caster was killed, so it just stands still on the same spot.
Composer99 20th Aug 2019, 9:20 AM edit delete reply
I definitely appreciate the pun in the punchline. DM was probably waiting to use that for some time now.
Classic Steve 20th Aug 2019, 10:24 AM edit delete reply
"Freaking out is no way to NOT live"?
dziadek1990 20th Aug 2019, 11:07 AM edit delete reply
Because they know they aren't actually real, ergo, "not alive".
Story Time 20th Aug 2019, 1:22 PM edit delete reply
Existentialism, Illusions that know they are not alive but a figment of imagination... Any story about finding a illusion or similar that knew it's not alive and accept it?
albedoequals1 20th Aug 2019, 4:19 PM edit delete reply
albedoequals1
I made my players face an illusion that knew she wasn't real, but had an evil plan to fix that. She worked them up to be sympathetic to her horrible predicament, and then tried to trick one of them into trading places with her. One of the characters was notoriously easy to guilt-trip, and very nearly agreed to sacrifice herself to save the illusion.
T 20th Aug 2019, 10:22 PM edit delete reply
If they are fully aware of their situation and don’t cease to exist when nobody is there are they really illusions or just regular people in a different universe with different laws? Maybe this universe is small but it still would be a different reality. There is also the simulation hypothesis where we probably are not “real” and are just part of a simulation but from our point of view, simulated beings in a simulated world, we are as real as it can be.
Guest 21st Aug 2019, 3:03 AM edit delete reply
Illusions typically have limited programings. If the illusion is self-aware and capable of self-determination, then they are just a different kind of sapient lifeform, just like any AI capable of those things.
Guest 21st Aug 2019, 7:39 AM edit delete reply
For my current barbarian?
The shade of his father calling him a coward for running from the witch that killed him (the father) and telling the barbarian that all of his efforts to slay witches after he grew up are a pointless exercise to ease the guilt he deserves.