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6th Jun 2020, 6:00 AM in A Canterlot Wedding, Part 1
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Newbiespud 6th Jun 2020, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Writing this page was how I discovered that building for 4e with all the resources is basically impossible these days. (And my antivirus flags the hack-around offline builder as malware. And the server providing the updates is broken, so if you don't install it in a certain way it's dead on arrival and you have to start all over again.) My foundational TTRPG now has an incredible barrier to entry because all of its best tools and resources were proprietary.

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tipulsar85 6th Jun 2020, 6:13 AM edit delete reply
Yeah, trying to dive back in to 4e's material is ahrd, especially when you can't even convert it to Fantasy Grounds or Roll20 properly... Also said tools were never all that friendly for third party materials. Anyone else have any stories about problems trying use tools for older editions of games on newer hardware?
Winged Cat 6th Jun 2020, 12:32 PM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Proprietary tools eventually fall out of service. For anything where I might be wanting to use the tools long after their maker has stopped making money off them, anything requiring the cloud or central servers is a non-starter: I don't even engage with them while the servers are working.

I have lost count of the number of video games I once played that are no longer playable for precisely this reason. I once downloaded a MMO server, so as to run it and be the only player in the instance; I forget if the parent company had already disbanded or was merely about to shut that MMO down, but buying a copy and playing normally was not an option.

Though to literally tell of "older editions of games on newer hardware", I once played a game that was tied to the CPU. On its original hardware it was good enough; on hardware many years of Moore's Law later, an entire level that had originally taken minutes went by in seconds. It was impossible to react much; when I survived a level, it was akin to the later "Win By Doing Nothing" meme. Eventually I found a way to emulate a slower CPU, but that only worked up to a point. I believe I no longer have a copy of that game (lost in the moves from computer to computer).
albedoequals1 7th Jun 2020, 9:47 PM edit delete reply
albedoequals1
The reason I originally got into Pathfinder instead of D&D was that the core rules were free and available everywhere. I still play Pathfinder for the same reason, and the strategy has paid off. Paizo is dropping their 1E resources, but I don't care because d20pfsrd and Nethys were my main sources to begin with.
ANW 6th Jun 2020, 6:15 AM edit delete reply
"Just a few more weeks and I will-"
*Konk*
Nice try, I'm not falling for that again.

I may pull off a decent Discord, but the changeling queen is a definite no.

If someone else wants to take that mantle, go on ahead.
BackSet 6th Jun 2020, 6:55 AM edit delete reply
BackSet
Shining Armor, the chillest of dudes.

Man, you've endeared me to him already.
Digo Dragon 9th Jun 2020, 8:38 PM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Yeah, I love the players that can do Lawful Chill paladins. My wife used to play that concept very well with our old group. She knew how to pick her battles and let the party just be themselves.
Cygnia 6th Jun 2020, 7:40 AM edit delete reply
...why does he have a saddle on?

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...what do he & Cadence get UP to?!
BackSet 6th Jun 2020, 7:51 AM edit delete reply
It's supposed to be armor.
Borg 6th Jun 2020, 8:33 AM edit delete reply
I can't give you a reason that saddles are a thing within Equestrian fashion, but they are.
Anvildude 6th Jun 2020, 12:04 PM edit delete reply
Honestly, Equestrian saddles are kind of a logical outgrowth of just,like, equestrian physiology. You have a large compound curve that goes over the back- in the real-world, warhorses were never really armored at the saddle because that's where the Knight was, and he already had armor. But in Equestria, you need armor there- and since that part of a horse's back doesn't really have much flex while moving, you'd just make that a single large plate. And for strength, you'd want compound curves. You'd then want an inwards curve for a place to put the lance rigs as well. Thus: Saddle shape. Pommels might have been a feature for ease of carrying and hitching, in a way similar to Big Mac's hawser.

And fashion almost _always_ follows military function.
Robin Bobcat 6th Jun 2020, 12:17 PM edit delete reply
Winter Wrap-Up had Twilight putting on a cute fluffy winter saddle (which then fell off).
I know that early ideas for the show had saddles and bridles as pony fashion accessories (which Rarity would be designing among other things), but that got dropped after a while.
you know that guy 6th Jun 2020, 11:10 PM edit delete reply
Twilight is one of the very few people who regularly has someone riding on her back.
CliffRobotnik 7th Jun 2020, 5:16 AM edit delete reply
She also evidentially has a seatbelt.

Unsaddled.

I think it was in the crystal empire as some point we saw this... It's been a few years, I barely remember.
A Hat with A Smaller Hat 7th Jun 2020, 5:43 AM edit delete reply
It was beginning of S4, Princess Twilight Sparkle I believe. Spike did it as a joke since Twi didn’t quite know how her wings worked yet
Emptybee 6th Jun 2020, 12:09 PM edit delete reply
In season one we saw Spike's vision of knighthood includes swinging a sword from horseback. In season three, we learned that the Crystal Ponies liked jousting. Neither of these things make a lick of sense.
Wulfraed 7th Jun 2020, 8:35 AM edit delete reply
There was also the Tantabus episode: (Knight) Spike riding Giant Derpy.

{The less said about Big Mac's "Princess transformation" the better}
Anon, a Mouse 8th Jun 2020, 9:30 PM edit delete reply
Can I say that based on that, the crossdressing, and the way that both Cheerilee and Big Mack laugh at the idea of being a couple in "Hearts and Hooves Day", Big Mac was almost definitely originally written to be gay?
BackSet 9th Jun 2020, 5:33 AM edit delete reply
Okay that last one could be tangentially considered evidence (or however that goes) but those first two really can't be considered evidence of anything other than Big Mac reads to much Manga from whatever Pony Japan is called or that he's jealous of his siter and her friends for having magic powers and wants some of his own, with his only reference pool being the Mane Six and therefor Sailor Mac.
Guest 9th Jun 2020, 1:22 PM edit delete reply
Crossdressing has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation.
Akouma 7th Jun 2020, 6:44 PM edit delete reply
Akouma
Given that the saddle seems to be part of the uniform, a decent question is "why is Celestia dressing her guards up in saddles?"
Prairie Son 6th Jun 2020, 1:13 PM edit delete reply
<<My foundational TTRPG now has an incredible barrier to entry because all of its best tools and resources were proprietary.>>

Yeah, that was always the biggest argument against 4E up here. "Building a character is hard!" "Just use the on-line tools." "And when our wonky internet dies for a week again?"
Alivda 8th Jun 2020, 2:06 AM edit delete reply
Think that's bad? Try making a character for Palladium's RIFTS. There is no tool for it, despite being a 40~ish year old pen and paper, thanks to how involved it's character creation is. But, that's to be expected when you have an rpg system that lets you play a teenage mutant ninja turtle in the robotech/macross universe with zombies.
DuoScratch 6th Jun 2020, 1:21 PM edit delete reply
Look at the Chaotic Stupid calling out possible Lawful Stupid. XD
BackSet 6th Jun 2020, 3:28 PM edit delete reply
Hypocrisy does not make one wrong, it only makes them a jerk.
Ariamaki 6th Jun 2020, 2:59 PM edit delete reply
I've never used tools for any RPG, whether it's an online campaign or a paper face-to-face: Part of it is that I got my start with a game that predates the entire concept (although the internet is pretty foundational to it, Hunter: The Reckoning) and part of it is that I just found they... mostly get in the way? I've never had an easier time with them than I would just using the actual sourcebooks and basic PDF or WordPad character sheets (I like sketching up my own templated blank sheets in WP when I first try out a new system, they're quite useful as a DM). Even as an original backer of Roll20, I feel like those types of tools are just sort of a chore as opposed to something useful or interesting, for me.
Malroth 8th Jun 2020, 12:54 PM edit delete reply
Malroth
Big twist i threw in an old hunter campaign, Hunter.net was secretly run by the Technocracy as a way to eliminate some of the more dangerous and consensus violating reality deviants. The players wound up being fine with this and continued cautiously going along with the tips it provided.
CrowMagnon 7th Jun 2020, 6:59 AM edit delete reply
Three words to answer RD's question at the end:

Sheriff Andy Taylor