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Newbiespud 10th Jan 2013, 6:00 AM edit delete
We're coming into the home stretch of the Bridle Gossip arc, which is good. I've discovered there's only so much of the same freaking alignment argument I can stand to simulate in writing...


BadHorse 10th Jan 2013, 6:13 AM edit delete reply
I enjoyed the play between the two less-good ponies last time.

kriss1989 10th Jan 2013, 6:16 AM edit delete reply
So ate we getting to the "Evil, not evil" argument? Cause that one is rather fun.
darkwulf23 10th Jan 2013, 7:20 AM edit delete reply
Those are always fun. For example.

In order for something to be good or evil they first must be a free thinking individual, aka there actions must be ruled by thought, not instinct. Second they must have the ability to chose. So someone who can only commit evil because he has no choice technically is only commenting his natural instincts and is more a force of nature than anything else. Third, his morality and alignment is usually determined by society. That is where the conflict arises because most people ask, which society? For example a drow torturing and sacrificing for her god Loth is considered good by the Drow society because she is doing what is socially acceptable and lawfully demanded by her culture and kingdom, where as a drow who has forsaken the teaching of Loth and has ran away to the surface to assist and protect the natural enemy of their societies would be considered evil. So in the end good and evil is really just subjective.
kriss1989 10th Jan 2013, 7:50 AM edit delete reply
Yeah, let's ignore that this is a system where Gods exist and Good and Evil are actual metaphysical substances that can actually be observed!

In D&D morality is absolute. I don't let my PCs get away with that "relativistic" crap in a setting where literal embodiments of justice can come down from the heavens and punch evil in the face.

I meant more along the lines of "Evil doesn't mean everything you do if bad!" That's cartoon evil, not real evil.
Lyntermas 10th Jan 2013, 10:26 AM edit delete reply
So it would be more accurate to say (going by kriss1989's theory) that torture is always "evil", it's just that Loth and drow society reward evil acts.

One of the main problems with the "absolute" argument was covered in one of Spoony's Counter Monkey videos: what do you do with orc babies? On the one hand, the Monster Manual (and, by extension, the world) say that orcs are Always Chaotic Evil. On the other hand, orc babies haven't done anything yet. While one may theorize that orc babies may grow up to bad guys (at least, if raised by orc moms the orcish way), there are significant problems in assuming that an entity is born evil, rather than having done evil actions.
Demonu 10th Jan 2013, 1:19 PM edit delete reply
1) Take Orc baby
2) Raise it to be the most stereotypical paladin ever
3) Thoroughly confuse everyone you ever meet
4) ???
5) Profit!
GrayGriffon 10th Jan 2013, 3:34 PM edit delete reply
Yes... just... Yes...