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23rd Jul 2013, 6:00 AM
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Assistance is Futile
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Newbiespud 23rd Jul 2013, 6:00 AM edit delete
There's a certain point where you just have to go, "Yep, no skill check's going to stop stuff from hitting the fan now." Some players go into that situation with more gusto than others.


DoubleCross 23rd Jul 2013, 6:02 AM edit delete reply
It's a conga of fails.
Raxon 23rd Jul 2013, 6:02 AM edit delete reply
"I make a diplomacy check."
"Wow, a natural twenty! Let's hear it!"
"Before we let you leave, your commander must cross that field, present himself before this army, put his head between his legs, and kiss his own arse."
"Really? That's what you're going with?"
"Yep. And a natural twenty, which means it's a critical success."
Tom 23rd Jul 2013, 6:05 AM edit delete reply
That's why you make them say what they're trying to do before they roll. Imagine that request on a one.
Draxynnic 23rd Jul 2013, 6:06 AM edit delete reply
And that's why you get people to declare what they're saying BEFORE they roll the social-skill check, so they can't demand something outrageous knowing they've got a good die roll to back them up.
Digo 23rd Jul 2013, 6:09 AM edit delete reply
I just slap a "Stupid Tax" penalty on the roll so hard that the die spins. It has done wonders to keep the party from instigating that kind of diplomacy. :3
Raxon 23rd Jul 2013, 6:24 AM edit delete reply
Clearly, the enemy commander is not going to acquiesce to these demands. The diplomacy check does not work if your message has to be conveyed via messenger. You can make some of these checks mere formalities.

In addition, a story comes to mind. This guy goes before the king and queen to make an impassioned speech. The speech was eloquent heartfelt and highly convincing. He then rolled a 1. It was ruled that he had been staring at the queen and clopping the whole time. Dunno where I heard the tale, but the thing goes both ways.
MumaKirby 25th Jul 2013, 2:06 AM edit delete reply
I like it when the DM actually thinks about things like that.

If someone actually manages to make a fairly good/convincing speech off the top of their head, I will probably give it to them without a roll. If they're not so good at that kind of thing, sure, roll for it. Or a mix of the two. I'm not going to punish someone for being bad at that sort of thing, but I might reward that sort of thing.

Of course, that kind of comment said directly to someone would likely get a 'Uh... yeah, f*** that.'
Zuche 23rd Jul 2013, 7:01 AM edit delete reply