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Author Notes:

Newbiespud 14th Mar 2015, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Alright, I think I'm done gushing over the comics in the Author's Note.

I think this is the only page in this mini-arc where I had to stitch together a Frankenstein from several different pages of the comic. The rest I'm pretty sure are just two normal pages.

82 Comments:

Digo 14th Mar 2015, 6:20 AM edit delete reply
Nice edit for Rarity in the first panel. That worked out really well. :3
MuffinMark 14th Mar 2015, 6:21 AM edit delete reply
MuffinMark
Have we done Storytime for when players have had to work for or perform a task for the villain yet?
Digo 14th Mar 2015, 6:51 AM edit delete reply
I've had characters perform work for villains, though trying to think of something that was noteworthy... oh!

Okay, so this was an Earthdawn game years and years ago. One town we happened across had a quarantine. The spellcasters in the party broke into the city and got caught, meaning now they're stuck inside until the plague is cured.

Us fighter types were still outside. The Villain (a zealous cleric who was trying to figure out this disease) offered us a job to look into a nearby cave where he heard rumor of a dragon. We check it out and find no dragon, but the instead the mayor and his henchmen who magically created the disease so they could get free relief from their neighbors. That's right. The mayor wanted his town to mooch off other towns so he can pocket the bonus money!

We manage to defeat the minions and the mayor without spellcasting support and brought them in. The villain cleric used the mayor's notes on the disease to counter it and the quarantine was finally lifted once the people were cured.

We parted with the villain on good terms this time... but still had to stop him eventually cause he had a habit of burning heretics at the stake. And he defines who is a heretic.
Mabbz 14th Mar 2015, 7:57 AM edit delete reply
I got my players to steal the Elements of Harmony for Princess Luna, originally planning to reveal her as Nightmare Moon all along (the RP is set 1000 years ago).

Then the whole thing started getting incredibly dark, so I cooked up a new version. Luna actually masterminded the whole thing as a non violent attempt at getting the love of her subjects. She planned to use a magical item to boost her power level enough to make it night for a few days, forcing the populace to accept that she was Celestia's equal. She'd also use it to force Celestia to talk to her as sisters, so they could work through her lonliness together. She wanted the Elements to ensure Celestia would have to talk to her, and not overpower her.

Then the PC's found out the plan and told her that they had killed two loyal members of the night guard because they had been led to believe they were traitors and thieves. Luna's guilt led her to willingly get possessed by the Nightmare Forces, because doing so would remove her empathy and pain.

Good times had by all.
Specter 14th Mar 2015, 9:02 AM edit delete reply
Specter
A time I did a job for myself and a party member aside?

Set a few years before the fall of the balefire, the players (all of them having no idea what lore of MLP I was using) were hired by Equestria as a strike team that would take on only the most dangerous of illegal missions known to the military (essentially black ops).

They came to the consensus that they were going to be fighting terrorists, and stop assassins and the like (which is pretty spot on... to a point).

They eventually got the notice of a third party, and were... requested to do a few things (kill some guards, take out the power to some sectors of industry)... all of which took place in the Zebranic lands of course.

At the end of the campaign, the strike force, for the better, was put into cryogenic freezing for the future (level 10).

They woke up to a lifeless planet... and a recording from the past, thanking them for giving the third company (a PMC) a chance to nuke the Zebranic lands... they had a choice.
Evah... 16th Mar 2015, 12:12 PM edit delete reply
"Storytime for when players have had to work for or perform a task for the villain"

Every Shadowrun game ever played...
j-eagle12212012 14th Mar 2015, 6:54 AM edit delete reply
j-eagle12212012
Here is a poll question thingy... (I've never done one ok)

Anyway... What part of the fandom (if any) just doesn't make sense to you?

For me it's the Ponies in socks, I just don't see the appeal of it.
nathan400 14th Mar 2015, 7:11 AM edit delete reply
it kinda goes without saying, but the fandom of certain emo vaguely vampire-like entities don`t make sense to me.
Digo 14th Mar 2015, 8:00 AM edit delete reply
The part where the fandom forgets who the real target audience of the show is.
Mykin 14th Mar 2015, 8:23 AM edit delete reply
Mykin
Amen to that, Digo.
reynard61 14th Mar 2015, 8:54 PM edit delete reply
reynard61
Ditto! They've pretty much *RUINED* the term "Brony" and the reputations of those of us who just like the show.
Guest 14th Sep 2015, 6:27 PM edit delete reply
What makes you think they don't know, as opposed to simply don't give a shit?
ANW 14th Mar 2015, 8:04 AM edit delete reply
First, open ended like this is a survey.
Pick between choices is a poll.
Second, Creepy-Pasta fics.
Cupcakes, Rainbow Factory, just too much.
Newbiespud 14th Mar 2015, 8:21 AM edit delete reply
Newbiespud
One, no need to overthink this whole poll thing, since its practical use in these comment sections is as a weirdly structured conversation starter. Simply starting a thread with a question or a story works just as well as a "poll."

Two, I hope this topic doesn't turn antagonistic fast. Often, the reasons for liking or not liking something in fandom are personal.

Three, for me it'd have to be Princess Cadance's larger-than-expected fandom. Not that I can't figure out why she's liked - I like her too! - it just kinda bemuses me that, in the runup to the Season Two finale, she briefly represented everything wrong with the show at that point (oh, those halcyon days...), and then she was awesome, and now she's quite popular. I don't disagree, but sometimes it gets a chuckle out of me, y'know?
Digo 14th Mar 2015, 10:18 AM edit delete reply
It's amusing how characters who don't get much screen time end up very popular. I guess one reason is that there's a lot of open space to interpret the character and add your own headcanon too.

Derpy is the poster child for that sort of thing. :D
Skorzah 14th Mar 2015, 12:28 PM edit delete reply
Let's see... Craggy, guts, blinky, draconic language.... You of all people should see the pattern here, spud!
Specter 14th Mar 2015, 8:32 AM edit delete reply
Specter
The part of the fandom that is a brony, then they say they're not, while giving no explanation why.
Truly Mad Moves 14th Mar 2015, 9:00 AM edit delete reply
Truly Mad Moves
I think we've covered what I don't get. Which goes hand in hand with what Nathan and Digo said: the macabre, gothic portion of the fandom seem to be the comic's target audience. Apparently, the bulk of the fandom DO find it accessible, and I guess that's the important thing, but it's not for me.

And, I dunno, I consider Cadance's popularity a pretty big triumph. She got pre-labelled as a Mary Sue but made it out unscathed. Gotta respect that.

The main part I don't get? Two words: background characters. They all have a backstory that the whole fandom agrees on, and God forbid if you deviate from it. Not that I would deviate from it, but where did it even come from in the first place? I get the fixation on the cool-looking ones like DJ P0n-3 and Octavia, but the perfectly mundane ones like Lyra, Bon Bon, Minuette? Heck, even the fact that Derpy came into being from a single split-second shot, and was noticed quickly enough that she started making genuine appearances before the first season was done? ...I'm not opposed to it, there's fun fanon material to mine there, it just raises the question of why the unexpected demographic spent so much time looking at the background.
Digo 14th Mar 2015, 10:21 AM edit delete reply
Boredom I guess? :)

I deviate from several of the fandom interpretations of background characters myself. Mostly because I have the freedom and choice to spin my own interpretations and don't care about trends unless I'm selling something. :D
Truly Mad Moves 14th Mar 2015, 10:37 AM edit delete reply
Truly Mad Moves
Oh, yes, you can't stand out without some deviation from the norm. ;) I'm particularly proud of my own Lyra and Bon Bon interpretation: they're only semi-recurring in my story, and technically, none of the fanon about them is contradicted. It just turns out that, in addition to their fanon personalities and interests, they are Aerys Targaryen levels of evil and crazy in an otherwise shiny, happy Ponyville. Nopony really knows what to make of them. Tries to ignore them, mostly.
Digo 15th Mar 2015, 6:41 AM edit delete reply
That sounds like an interesting version of them.
Guest 14th Sep 2015, 6:29 PM edit delete reply
No one cares about your story.
Guest 14th Mar 2015, 11:55 AM edit delete reply
Because the internet.

In the old days, you had to notice things yourself, unless they were discoveries significant enough to get published in a fan magazine (if you were lucky enough to belong to a fandom that had those). Nowadays, you just one person to notice something vaguely interesting enough to reblog. If we arbitrarily assume 5,000 people watch any given episode at least once (much too small now, but maybe more accurate in those early days), that means almost 2000 hours minimum spent watching that episode. That's a lot of time to notice background details.
Guest 14th Sep 2015, 6:28 PM edit delete reply
The comic is neither macabre, nor gothic.
Guest 14th Sep 2015, 6:29 PM edit delete reply
What do you mean by "so much time"? It takes at most a few seconds to go from noticing a character, to making up a story about them.
terrycloth 14th Mar 2015, 11:54 AM edit delete reply
I'm not a brony because I hate the word 'brony'. It makes my skin crawl. If there was some other word for it, I might admit to it.
Euric 14th Mar 2015, 8:54 AM edit delete reply
I try to understand everything in the fandom, even if I don't agree with it but... why do people always make braeburn gay? I mean, there's what, five available stallions in the whole story, and you have to ship them with each other? It's not like you can even make the exuse that there aren't many ponies of the opposite sex.

Also, when people break up shining and cadence to ship them homosexually. What is it with our fandom and same-sex pairings?
Truly Mad Moves 14th Mar 2015, 9:08 AM edit delete reply
Truly Mad Moves
Huh, I'd have answered that question with "not enough men", but I didn't realize that was done to the male characters as well. Eh, it's not just our fandom; same-sex shipping is an integral part of the very concept of fandom, dating back to the first Kirk/Spock fic. Nobody knows why, best not to question it.
Euric 14th Mar 2015, 9:24 AM edit delete reply
I think the main reason for 90% of the background ponies we have today is that they did something unique early on, then one person latched on to them for dear life and brought the rest of us with them. Lyra sat like a person (fanfic fuel) and bonbon was always seen with her, Colgate looks like toothpaste, time turner looks like the doctor... anything that makes an interesting story

Also, writers/artists/musicians needed more material to draw from, so background ponies are an obvious choice.
Guest 14th Sep 2015, 6:31 PM edit delete reply
It's because the only people who have time to think about the sex of lives of imaginary characters are, without exception, lonely ugly tweenage girls who are aroused by homosexual pairings.
CharginChuck 14th Mar 2015, 9:13 AM edit delete reply
CharginChuck
I know I'm gonna get crap for this, but I just don't get why Rainbow Dash is so damn popular. As much as I love the show and the rest of the cast, Rainbow Dash is one of the most unlikable characters I've ever seen. She's an arrogant, narcissistic jerk,and the whole loyalty thing that's supposed to be at the core of her character just gets thrown right out the window more often than not. What is the appeal?
j-eagle12212012 14th Mar 2015, 9:39 AM edit delete reply
j-eagle12212012
On RD :People like an anti-hero, she is everything you said but that is what makes her appealing... plus rainbows are a strong LGBTQ symbol and this is a fandom that loves and tolerates everyone so... also "I really like her mane" ^_^
Dusk Raven 14th Mar 2015, 11:00 AM edit delete reply
Considering I consider her best pony, and a crush on a humanized version of her was what got me into the show... I'm hard-pressed to answer this, really. For me, I think it's partially because I just like tomboys, and partially because... well, I don't know. I don't usually dig "Jerk With a Heart of Gold" characters, but in this case, I do.
Mace Direwolf 14th Mar 2015, 11:10 AM edit delete reply
Mace Direwolf
There's more to her appeal than her flaws, J.

Chuck, I wish I had the time to explain in-depth, but I don't, so for now, I offer this description as a start:

"Capable and athletic, Rainbow Dash lives for adventure! When any problem should arise that involves traveling to distant lands or dealing with a magical, mysterious beast, Rainbow is the first to volunteer! Brave and bold, anypony who has ever seen this rainbow-haired Pegasus in the air has been left in jaw-dropped awe of her speed, agility, and, well, her confidence. She's quite positive she's the fastest Pegasus pony alive, and truth be told, she probably is. Yes, she's a bit proud, and a bit mischievous, [sometimes over-confidant, somewhat narcissistic] and often lazy for somepony obsessed with speed, but when the chips are down, and danger is a-brewing, Rainbow Dash always, always comes through, proving time and time again that she is a true hero!"

On top of that, without spending too much time with specifics at the moment, she's exudes an aura of cool, people relate to her or aspire to be like her in positive ways; (in fact, she's one of the characters I have most in common with) she's a dreamer--a winner and is one of the most awesome, adorable and epic characters in animation, without being too over-the-top.
Borg 14th Mar 2015, 1:15 PM edit delete reply
I don't really blame you for not seeing the appeal of Dash. She's not an easy character to understand. She's got layers, and if you get wrapped up in the surface layers it's difficult to escape so you can look deeper.
I used to be in a similar boat with Dash. It took me a long time to see that she really did embody her Element, and I think I only managed to escape at all because she had enough charisma to keep me from actually hating her for being a terrible Loyalty when I saw her that way. And I'm still in that boat with Rarity, even though I long since recognized that her character has depths that I ignore, and I've been trying to truly see those depths for well over a year now. I've managed to stop hating her, but that doesn't mean I like her yet, even though I'm pretty sure I should.

I think the best answer to your question is "noblesse oblige."

Dash almost certainly doesn't know the phrase, but she's very familiar with the concept: letting down those who need you is very non-awesome. And Dashie is nothing if not awesome.

Let me ask: what is Dash's greatest flaw? Many would say "pride," or at least something to that effect. But is that really a flaw at all? If you take pride in a skill, you'll make sure to do it well. The last thing you'd want is to prove your pride unfounded. She takes pride in her awesomeness, and as far as she's concerned, that includes being dependable whenever she's needed. (And when you're as skilled as her, when aren't you needed?) She takes pride in her flying, so she practices regularly to be the best she can be. And weather control is a flying-related skill, so as long as she's on the weather team, her pride ensures that she's going to control the hell out of that weather.

Does she have other flaws that are actually flaws? Of course. Is she abrasive? Yeah, she doesn't tend to think before she speaks, so hoping for tact from her is pretty futile. But she doesn't mean to be hurtful, so hopefully we can forgive her for a few ill-advised remarks, because we're all friends here. Is she overly concerned with her image? If you ask me, it's kind of cute how she tries to only show her feelings when nopony's watching, and to backtrack to save face when she gets caught. I wouldn't call that one a flaw, though you are welcome to not see it as cute if you don't share my opinion. Is she lazy? Yes, but she's more proud than she is lazy, so is it really such a problem? Plus, she's not as lazy as she used to be.

Which brings me to my next point: character development. I'm not by any means saying that the other characters haven't developed, but I think Dash has the best demonstration of her development: "Wonderbolts Academy." Lightning Dust isn't a bad mare, but she is headstrong, rash, impatient, and frequently fails to notice the needs of others on her own. Sound familiar? I could see the pegasus who was goofing off instead of clearing the sky in preparation for the most important holiday of the year doing everything Lightning did. But Rainbow isn't that pony any more. She's mellowed. She's more observant, more thoughtful, and more patient. She's not going to win any prizes in those categories, but she has enough of those qualities.
Plus there's the way her relationship with Scoots has gone from dismissive and at times exploitative to a close mentoring relationship. I really like what she does for that filly.

And to some extent, she doesn't really sell herself correctly. She's not shy about saying what her good qualities are, but the only personality traits on that list are coolness and relatives thereof, and what exactly does that even mean? She won't say that she's loyal, because she can't imagine she could be otherwise. She's almost as dependable as AJ, but she'l never say it, because it's not something she thinks about, it's just something she does.
Just look at "May the Best Pet Win." She was looking for a pet that was like her, and by the final race she had picked out pets who were fast, charismatic, and had neat skills, because that's how she sees herself. But they were all too focused on winning the race to check if she was okay after the avalanche. So in the end she chose Tank, who stopped to get the rock off her wing and carried her out, because it was the part of her that she always forgets which is the most important.

So who is Dash really? She's a mare who will tolerate being bored to tears by a butterfly migration for a friend. She's a mare who may get caught up in the acclaim of being a superhero, but will respond to a filly in a well whether or not anypony is watching. she's a mare who will admit to being scared--no minor task when that runs so counter to her image--to make a filly who adores her feel better. She's a mare who breaks through her limits, not to mention the theoretical limits of pegasus flight, when a friend is in danger. She's a mare whose greatest ambition is to be a Wonderbolt, but not if it means betraying her friends (I have to wonder if anypony serves as Spitfire's moral compass when Dashie isn't around).

And THAT is why I have a crush on her.
Rubahhitam 14th Mar 2015, 3:31 PM edit delete reply
I apologize if I sound too presumptuous, Borg, but perhaps "pride" might be better translated as "self-confidence"? Pride has a duality about it that splits into a "bad" side and "good" side, so perhaps in using it you meant more along the lines of "being confident in one's ability(ies)"? Again I apologize, not looking for conflict OR to correct you on some perfectionist urge, just looking for understanding of where you're coming from in this. Sorry if this upsets you, but I hope you have a good day, and if not, I hope it gets better!
-Ru
Guest 14th Sep 2015, 6:32 PM edit delete reply
She's confident, not arrogant. The distinction is that her appraisal of herself is accurate.

Her loyalty has never been thrown out the window. She has chosen her town and her friends over success and fame when they have been in conflict without exception.
CrowMagnon 14th Mar 2015, 2:16 PM edit delete reply
Hmmm, I'd say one of mine is the faction that loves to villify Celestia. It's like some expect her to be perfect, and any failings, however large or small, are evidence that she should be stripped of her title and thrown out into the street.

Or the ones who blame her for everything that happened to Luna, who is put on a pedestal in turn. I mean, I like Luna too, but let's not pretend she wasn't the villain for a while (regardless of comics canon, which I take with the same grain of salt as any tie-in novel for a major franchise).

So, what's the deal there? Is it just a reflexive anti-authoritarian mentality or what?
Disloyal Subject 14th Mar 2015, 9:01 PM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
Only one 'l' in vilify, Crow. I personally really enjoy interpretations of Celly as a benevolent troll, but as for Tyrantlestia, well... "The more beautiful and pure something is, the more satisfying it is to corrupt it." That probably goes for the grotesquely violent stuff that irks some of the guys above, too.

I feel I owe you an apology, ANW. It seems that prompts unrelated to the comic can foster decent discussion after all, and if it has Spud's blessing, I certainly won't complain... won't keep complaining, rather.
Euric 15th Mar 2015, 8:28 AM edit delete reply
Yeah, I hate it when they try to make celestia as "PURE EVIL!" And stuff, or when they try to absolve Luna of all blame. Imo, a willingly possessed/corrupted person is more interesting than an unwillingly possessed pawn of some powerful being.

Also, if you want tragic, try losing your sister for 1000 years because of Your failiure to act. That's a tragic backstory if I've ever heard one
Frenchanon 15th Mar 2015, 2:04 PM edit delete reply
I tend to think that most of the fandom is retarded. /mlp/ is one of the only place where people are making a sense (sort of) to me. But hey, there's a list of all that I dislike in the fandom:
-Fedora people
-People who truly believe in the love and tolerate thing
-people who praise any character, for any reason AND try to start flamewars about it,(Yes claiming "[insert any pony here] is best pony because..." is a way to start a flame war) expecially background characters...
-people who brag about "how mlp saved them from suicide"
-people who treat mlp like it's sonic's fandom (alicorn OC's is a good example)
-people who like gamer luna
-people who have a "anti-clopping pride" and act like nuns about it.
-people who go on ponychan
-people who actually like ponychan
-people who try desesparatly to put their mary-sue character with any member of the show
-bad deviantart users
-furries
-grimdark-loving people

To all people who are "bronies", but who refuse to use this name because of all the autistic fans, here are a few that are used:
-Ponyfags
-nor/mlp/eople (4chan mostly)
-Horsefuckers
Zeeth 15th Mar 2015, 9:10 PM edit delete reply
So insulting people using ableist language is okay? Throwing around curse words based on bestiality? Presuming we all know what a particular hat means? (The Trilby, not fedora, is the preferred hat of creeps, I should remind you; there is photographic evidence of the difference.) Wanting to have or be nice things? (Alicorns are already risking a Mary Sue, and yet I have OCs for every pony race including an alicorn. There ARE limitations if you let them exist; headcanon is so variable anyway.)

I think you need to consider at least one important thing: "Love and tolerate" came from actually paying attention to the message of the show, and doesn't have to include things which are truly contemptible. Like insults you didn't have to use, or statements that imply everyone is trying to one-up each other. Or patronizing attitudes.

Words have meaning. Be careful that you mean the words you choose.
Raxon 15th Mar 2015, 10:43 PM edit delete reply
Raxon
Words have the power to make or break empires. Your choices determine your allies and your enemies. From the words of my favorite lunatic, "make the right enemies, and you'll find your allies."

Also, autistic really wasn't the best word to use as a slur. Even from a logistcal standpoint, autism doesn't quite carry the same weight as something like retarded would.

Now go forth, shitty french troll, and suck just a little bit less at inciting anger. Zeeth may be blind to your tricks, but your trolling is amateur at best.

Oh, and Zeeth? Grow some thicker skin. Obvious troll is obvious.
Spiffy aka crazyredemu 16th Mar 2015, 9:04 PM edit delete reply
Is Raxon talking sense!?! WHAT UNIVERSE IS THIS!!!
Raxon 17th Mar 2015, 12:40 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
I've always been the sane one. You're the ones who are mad.
j-eagle12212012 16th Mar 2015, 4:48 AM edit delete reply
j-eagle12212012
@Zeeth

Raxon is right, don't feed the trolls, they thrive on responses to their negativity and gain power, the best way to deafeat them is to ignore them
Raxon 16th Mar 2015, 9:13 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
Exactly. You guys know I dabble in trolling, but never maliciously, only to mess with you. Would you like some grey poupon?
Mykin 16th Mar 2015, 10:17 AM edit delete reply
Mykin
Eh, not thanks, I'm on a diet.

But I must ask, Raxon: Is giving pointers to lame trolls a wise move? Surely, the internet could do without increasing the skills of the malicious trolls running about.
Raxon 16th Mar 2015, 12:54 PM edit delete reply
Raxon
Lemme put it this way. The most effective trolls aren't malicious.

Besides, it's like she's not even trying. She won't ever be a threat, because if that's her idea of a clever troll, I think she might need a new helmet. Her old one seems a bit tight.
Guest 14th Sep 2015, 6:36 PM edit delete reply
"ableist"

Fuck off.
Disloyal Subject 16th Mar 2015, 8:46 PM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
On the vanishingly slim off-chance that you aren't a troll...
It seems fitting to remind an out-of-line 4chan poster that this isn't your blog.
Guest 14th Sep 2015, 6:35 PM edit delete reply
There is no "deal". Imagining alternate constructions of a character is fun in its own right.

That you believe people are actually doing this with a straight face, and are emotionally invested in the various characterizations, is disturbing.
Spiffy aka crazyredemu 16th Mar 2015, 9:08 PM edit delete reply
Lots of it doesn't make sense.
The drama, why does it seem like there are so many ready and willing to flip tables at every little thing.
Twilight has a brother? FLIP TABLES!
New princess? FLIP TABLES!
Treehouse is destroyed....no table to flip it was in the treehouse
ANW 14th Mar 2015, 8:01 AM edit delete reply
Changelings, evil or misunderstood?
Hey, sometimes simple is better for the polls.
Specter 14th Mar 2015, 8:25 AM edit delete reply
Specter
Both.

You have the bad, you have controlled, and you have those without a choice...
Digo 14th Mar 2015, 10:24 AM edit delete reply
I like both.
Raxon 14th Mar 2015, 12:07 PM edit delete reply
Raxon
The best misunderstood are the ones that were actually evil all along.

If you do it just right, it can shock everyone that the villain the whole time was- gasp! The villain!
Digo 15th Mar 2015, 6:42 AM edit delete reply
Thus the twist is that there is no twist!
Raxon 15th Mar 2015, 10:23 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
If you do it right, the creepy guy with an obsession with the crimes can be the last person anyone suspects.
Xander 15th Mar 2015, 5:17 PM edit delete reply
Bet you've got a few tales on that subject.
Jannard 17th Mar 2015, 6:28 AM edit delete reply
That's exactly what I'm doing in the current campaign with not just the main villain, but a potential recurring one (the main one being the cue for the players to realize they should double-check the other)... But shhh, it's a secret!
Mykin 15th Mar 2015, 10:36 AM edit delete reply
Mykin
Hmm...so either evil or misunderstood, eh?

...

Meh, I'll go with both.
Tatsurou 16th Mar 2015, 1:49 AM edit delete reply
Tatsurou
Changelings are ponies (or, in terms of our world, people).

Any individual Changeling is no more evil or misunderstood than any other.

Chrysalis herself? Based solely on show, she's lawful evil. Based on the comics, questionable.

The Changelings in her army? They're either desperate, minions, or drones, depending on your accepted headcanon.

Individual Changelings? They're just that...individuals, and deserve to be judged on individual merits independent of what race they are.
Guest 14th Sep 2015, 6:39 PM edit delete reply
Changelings aren't ponies.

They are all objectively evil, without exception.

Try actually reading the source material next time.
Anon 14th Mar 2015, 11:36 AM edit delete reply
So wait, is this canon for the webcomic? Will the eventual "A Canterlot Wedding" arc be the second time time they encounter Chrysalis?
ANW 14th Mar 2015, 11:39 AM edit delete reply
I asked this question earlier.
In his words, it's a guest comic for his own webcomic. Sounds weird, but it works.
Newbiespud 14th Mar 2015, 4:04 PM edit delete reply
Newbiespud
My stance on most of the guest comics is: It's canon enough. I'm just not sure about the chronology.

For this especially, it's definitely canon for the comic, but I don't think this takes place immediately after Luna Eclipsed - maybe a bit later?

As for how this ties into A Canterlot Wedding... Well, you'll see.
Mykin 16th Mar 2015, 7:40 AM edit delete reply
Mykin
Huh, so my little guest comic added to the canon of the webcomic. That's pretty cool actually. If nothing else, at least it's another motivation to make sure my next one is just as good as my last one.

Anyway, I hope this happens before the Canterlot Wedding arc. Just so this conversation can happen:

DM/Chrysalis: Ha! We meet once again! But this time, I will be the one to triumphant!
Fluttershy: Umm...not to be mean or anything but...who are you?
DM:...Seriously? You guys remember Chrysalis, right?
Everyone:...
DM: The Changling Queen? She invaded Ponyville a few sessions ago?
Everyone:...
DM: She kidnapped Applebloom, Sweetie Belle, and Scootaloo?
Rainbow Dash: Not ringing any bells, DM.

This has happened in a few of the campaigns I've been involved in, so I'd laugh if this actually happened here. Though knowing my luck, we'll just get the reveal that Chrysalis is actually Elusive. Either way, we'll see.
BobbyJoeLord 16th Mar 2015, 9:11 PM edit delete reply
@Mykin

I know what your talking about its very amusing when, after a long time spent on a side quest, the party finally defeats the mini-boss and promptly goes.

Party: Now what?
DM: Aren't you going to save the Grand Master.
Party: Who's the Grand Master?
DM: Well so much for that campaign arc.
Specter 14th Mar 2015, 10:11 PM edit delete reply
Specter
Chrysalis, you NEVER show your face to your enemies so quickly, and you never do so from the safety of a place far away...

One can only imagine how badly she's going to need their aid in the future when things go bad.
CrimsonNutcase 15th Mar 2015, 4:05 AM edit delete reply
Me and a few members of our party, though usual magical dickery, were sent about 500 years into the future during a pathfinder session

What we found was a land where the nearby vampire clans had united and taken over and that our only way back was through an hourglass kept in one of their strongholds.

After a discussion with a travelling merchant, we attempted to sneak inside. Safe to say we were quickly captured and forced to fight eachother with the promise being "Should one of you die, the rest shall be given what you seek"

So about 17 rounds of PVP later, the vampires weren't counting on all of us having bought stones of True Ressurection from the merchant and since the vampires swore on their honor to grant our request upon one death, we managed to return hope with no downside

Except the stones turning to dust upon entering our original time

Tatsurou 16th Mar 2015, 1:59 AM edit delete reply
Tatsurou
Had this crazy idea regarding the Grand Galloping Gala - given the plan for it now is, literally, just to try and hook Rarity up with Blueblood, and decided I had to post it.

It turns out Blueblood is Elusive (I'm sure no one would be too surprised), and Rarity was blacklisted from the Thieve's Guild because she got too prominent and too close to Celestia...especially with Celestia knowing she was a thief. But it had nothing to do with her becoming a danger to the guild. It was done because Blueblood/Elusive feared she presented a threat to his cover, personally.

Over the course of Rarity's interaction with Blueblood at the Gala, she figures this out through a few good Sense Motive and Bluff rolls...and she goes ape shit, both in and out of character.

Rarity: Give me a pen!
Shy: W...what is she doing?
Pinkie: She just changed her alignment from Unaligned to Chaotic Good.
DM: Rarity, what-
Rarity: I smash my glass slipper over his head!
Twilight: WHAT?
RD: Awesome! Combat rounds!
DM: Rarity, you do realize that he could easily bring you up on-
Rarity: No, he won't. Because I know he's Elusive. He has to keep that a secret from Celestia. But she already knows I'm a thief...and she's turning a blind eye as long as my friendship with Twilight doesn't corrupt her, especially as I'm still the Bearer of Generosity. He has nothing on me...but one sentence from me to Celestia with the backing of my friends and he is destroyed!
DM: ...you do realize this will probably destroy any chance of reconciliation with the Guild-
Rarity: Buck the Guild!
Fluttershy faints.
Rarity: They need my silence far more than I need their resources or protection. And Elusive knows I hold all the cards now. And I'll keep my silence...if he removes the blacklist and keeps his nose out of my life. My friends and I - Luna included - are off limits.
Skorzah 16th Mar 2015, 5:09 AM edit delete reply
Ok... That's bucking awesome, but due to my inherant smartassery, I have to ask why she is using a pen on her character sheet?
Sheepking 16th Mar 2015, 9:24 AM edit delete reply
The alignment change is more final that way.
Skorzah 16th Mar 2015, 1:05 PM edit delete reply
true, but that's one of the first things I learned NOT to do.
FanOfMostEverything 16th Mar 2015, 10:31 AM edit delete reply
No comment on how chaotic good isn't a valid alignment in 4E? ;)
Srgt.Grif 16th Mar 2015, 1:36 PM edit delete reply
At that point, I don't think she would care...
Disloyal Subject 16th Mar 2015, 8:39 PM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
I figured that was half the point. Righteous anger sometimes inspires heroes to "Kick reason to the curb and go beyond the impossible!," after all...
SgtRainbowsIIII 16th Mar 2015, 2:03 PM edit delete reply
Flutteryshy in the last panel kinda scares me, newbiespud. lol
j-eagle12212012 16th Mar 2015, 4:07 PM edit delete reply
j-eagle12212012
Spud didn't draw this, it is from the offical IDW mlp comic.

As for Fluttershy in that last panel, Her heart is in her throat (its an expression which means someone is scarred, I believe) the artist drew her fear literal
Ross 18th Mar 2015, 6:55 PM edit delete reply
Man, I was hoping the evil green sphere was a Lok'Nar!