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14th Jan 2017, 6:00 AM
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Newbiespud 14th Jan 2017, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Scrapped, dumb lines:
Rainbow Dash: I thought that was, like, your character buys land and builds a house or something.
Applejack: "Character de-" Ugggggh.
Pinkie Pie: Gosh, I wish I'd thought of that one!

I feel like, knowing my audience, this is going to open up a can of worms about what exactly "character development" is. (I could probably fill up your screen with my thoughts on the subject.) I hemmed and hawed over Applejack's wording for a while, but I decided to stick with this. To help contain the worms, I'll just leave some little caveats here:

1) The context is tabletop character development, which, when you're piloting the character in question, you view a little differently than when you're observing characters in fiction.
2) "Development" tends to imply change in inner character, but I'd argue that changes in status (as a direct result of the character's actions, and the preceding pursuit of that status) inevitably do cause a character's interactions and reactions to change.
3) Rainbow Dash is still new at this.
4) This single page of a webcomic is not exactly meant to be a writing guide.

31 Comments:

Specter 14th Jan 2017, 6:13 AM edit delete reply
Specter
I wonder if this 'character development' goes against being the element of loyalty for Rainbow Dash. Probably not, but it still makes for good pondering.
JennyDracos 14th Jan 2017, 8:08 AM edit delete reply
To an extent, probably; but Rainbow Dash is also loyal to her own internal ideals. Intrapersonal conflict is the best!
River Road 15th Jan 2017, 10:11 AM edit delete reply
Genius. So the big breakdown before the competition is OOC? :P
"They're turning me into a roleplayer. What has my life become?"
Godzfirefly 14th Jan 2017, 9:37 AM edit delete reply
Nah. If RD discusses it with her fellow ponies first, there's no loyalty broken. It's just friendly competition, which we see all the time from even the most loyal of friends.
Digo Dragon 14th Jan 2017, 6:39 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Character development in my own PCs is when I start with a character that has some kind of flaw and through the adventure they learn to mitigate and overcome it. Might be a bit specific in the idea of 'development', but I think overcoming flaws is a big change for anyone, real or fictional. Just a thought.

I love how Dash's scrapped line explains Monopoly. That got me laughing. ^^;
Winged Cat 14th Jan 2017, 4:55 PM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Quite a few of my characters have turned flaws into strengths - not so much overcoming their flaws as owning them and succeeding anyway, or even because of the "flaws".

For instance, I once played a brash, headstrong princess. Sure, that got her into some early trouble...but it helped her get out of it, and overcome what fate had in store for her once she was queen.
Bezerker21 14th Jan 2017, 7:14 AM edit delete reply
I havent been playing dnd for very long only six months but i already had that kinda happen to my character zor aang. He had become the king and I decided that he would stop adventuring so i made a new character
albedoequals1 14th Jan 2017, 10:43 AM edit delete reply
albedoequals1
King in just 6 months? That's an academy record. :P
Digo 14th Jan 2017, 1:11 PM edit delete reply
Not if it's a game of chess. ;)
Winged Cat 14th Jan 2017, 5:00 PM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Chess allows for the promotion of pawns to queens, not kings. (Which informs the possible genders of all the other pieces. If any pawn could become queen, then all pawns must be female. But the pawns can also become any other role except king - so, perhaps every piece other than the king is female, and chess is actually about two harems battling?)

Checkers, though, sure.
zimmerwald1915 14th Jan 2017, 5:18 PM edit delete reply
In the West, sure. But in the Persian game, weren't the King and Queen the Shah and Vizier, respectively?
ANW 14th Jan 2017, 7:36 AM edit delete reply
I was going to have a more serious poll, but you know what they say about Pinkie and plans. "The former will always derail the latter"

What's your favorite type of pizza toppings?
Me:Ham and Pineapple. Follow by Pepperoni.
Godzfirefly 14th Jan 2017, 9:42 AM edit delete reply
I don't have a favorite topping 'per se'. Instead, I have conditions that must be met before a pizza that I eat is considered 'really good.'

1) The pizza must have 3 or more toppings, two or more of which must be vegetables.
2) No pork products can be on the pizza.
3) The crust must support the toppings. Soggy crust is a no-no.
4) The topping combination should 'make sense.' i.e. Don't just put a pile of sweet toppings onto the pizza with nothing to balance it. Or spicy or whatever...
Winged Cat 14th Jan 2017, 4:48 PM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Godzfirefly: so a pizza topped with just ham and bacon, which manages to get the crust soggy through ham juice and/or bacon grease, would be about as fail of a pizza as possible for you?
Anvildude 14th Jan 2017, 11:59 AM edit delete reply
I like savory vegetables- so Green Peppers, and I just discovered Roma Tomatoes.

Similarly, I like mild, soft meats- meatballs, occasionally sausage, maybe grilled chicken.

Crust that is nice and thick (through the whole crust, even under the toppings), not so much sauce that the cheese slides off, and a rim-crust that's crispy without being crunchy or tough.
Tatsurou 14th Jan 2017, 2:33 PM edit delete reply
Tatsurou
My favorite pizza topping combination is turkey kielbasa slices (browned), multi-colored bell peppers (sauted), red onions (carmelized), and mushrooms (browned).
Malroth 14th Jan 2017, 7:54 PM edit delete reply
Malroth
absolutely everything except pineapple and mushrooms
EdreaFlufftail 14th Jan 2017, 7:58 PM edit delete reply
For me to have a pizza, it has to be gluten-free and also not contain rice. (Most GF crusts do, sadly!) That said, I won't do meat together with dairy, and I *like* the couple of types of cheese I'm able to eat to be on pizzas, so I have yet to experiment with putting meat on a pizza since I started eating kosher. :)

That said, my usual go-to toppings are spinach and sheep/goat cheese, and I'll switch between tomato sauce and an alfredo sauce I make using coconut milk and copious amounts of garlic. I can also do chopped onion or peppers - but pretty much everything else that ever goes on a pizza either I hate the taste of, or I'm allergic to it.

That said, if I didn't use a pre-spiced pizza crust mix (chebe brand makes theirs out of manioc flour - cassava root), I would probably also enjoy making a sauce out of coconut milk *without garlic* and top it with almonds and/or berries and/or peaches and/or shredded coconut. Mmmm dessert pizza. (Actually... one of the types of goat cheese I can buy is just straight up a sweet cream cheese. I could probably use that with the coconut milk for a sauce. Mmmm.... thanks for getting me thinking about it!)
nathan400 14th Jan 2017, 8:05 PM edit delete reply
nathan400
None. Followed by garlic, if the garlic is diced fine enough (not hard, it only needs to be smaller than pea sized chunks. which it isn't always) and green onions (which most places don't have).
JSchunx 14th Jan 2017, 9:22 PM edit delete reply
Gosh dang it, you guys, now I really want pizza.
terrycloth 14th Jan 2017, 9:22 PM edit delete reply
extra sauce
pepperoni
spicy sausage
mushrooms
onions
jalapenos
sweet hot peppers
garlic
Kalamata or green olives

...at least, that's what I've been ordering lately. I try to tweak it sometimes but haven't been able to improve it in a while.

If I'm limited in the number of toppings it's generally onions, mushrooms, jalapenos, pepperoni in that order.
Laurence 15th Jan 2017, 12:05 AM edit delete reply
I'm a simple man; Just give me a pizza with Canadian Bacon and I'll be happy. That said, Pineapple is a no go for me, don't like it on or off of pizzas, and I don't like having to pick it off of a Hawaiian pizza either because the juices soak in and, even though the yellow chunks are no longer there, YOU CAN STILL TASTE IT!!! (*ahem* some about that outburst). In general I like the meats and can pass on the veggies (although olives and mushrooms I can deal with if I must), although I find that, for me, the Canadian Bacon is best if solo.
reynard61 15th Jan 2017, 1:24 AM edit delete reply
reynard61
If it's a frozen pizza (Tombstones, Totinos, etc.) I'm okay with just adding more cheese and pepperoni. If I'm making it from scratch, I usually add onions, olives, mushrooms and maybe some hard salami if I can afford it.
Cass 15th Jan 2017, 10:21 AM edit delete reply
Bacon, pineapple, and jalapeno peppers.
Digo Dragon 15th Jan 2017, 10:48 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
TMNT had the worst pizza topping choices.
Joe the Rat 17th Jan 2017, 5:51 AM edit delete reply
I used to be a big fan of the garbage pie, but I've found if you get a good pizza - a really good one - less is more. All the crap takes away from the sauce and crust. That and it doesn't fold as well.

sausage and onion or peppers makes me pretty happy.
Smarty 14th Jan 2017, 1:08 PM edit delete reply
To be fair, the scrapped lines is the kind of joke I would make
Digo 14th Jan 2017, 1:12 PM edit delete reply
Not a bad joke though.
Winged Cat 14th Jan 2017, 5:07 PM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
NS, would you say that one cause of lack of character development in ordinary fiction (as opposed to RPGs) might be that the author(s) do not bother to pilot certain characters, but instead just have them do their thing, with little care for how their reasons and values might change depending on what they see?
nathan400 14th Jan 2017, 8:07 PM edit delete reply
nathan400
Suggested line:
AJ: Yes, yer basically describin' character developement.
RD: OHHH! Is THAT what that is? I thought it was a rash.
aerion111 15th Jan 2017, 9:40 AM edit delete reply
aerion111
NS: Ya could have just LET people disagree.
Or settled for a general 'The statements of my characters do not reflect my actual opinions outside of the comic'