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Newbiespud 17th May 2012, 6:00 AM edit delete
Angel sets the bar for silent supporting characters. Besides the art and the animation, I am always impressed by the quality of the writing in this show. And since that particular skill is the bulk of what I bring to the table for this comic, I find that the bar is set pretty high.

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BadHorse 17th May 2012, 6:05 AM edit delete reply
Angel is best mime.
The MunchKING 17th May 2012, 6:08 AM edit delete reply
The MunchKING
Angel is an ABUSIVE little monster.

But I suppose enough strength to slap a pony through a window and across 20 feet is useful for an adventurer.
darkwulf23 17th May 2012, 6:19 AM edit delete reply
I bet the writers really regret showing that. You can tell they were trying to redeem angel with hurricane Fluttershy because he acted meek and supportive throughout the entire episode.
The MunchKING 17th May 2012, 6:35 AM edit delete reply
The MunchKING
Well it wasn't like he was NICE before. He put in a headlock and twisted her around to see the black cloud in his first appearance.

And apparently annoyed the crud out of Spike. :D
darkwulf23 17th May 2012, 6:46 AM edit delete reply
True but the original season, he was designed to be assertive, kind of a balance point to Fluttershy's meekness. The problem was Putting your hoof down. If they didn't show him as physically abusive he probably would have still been likable to the fans. Course that entire episode everybody was out of character and acting like a douche.
Digo 17th May 2012, 7:13 AM edit delete reply
I dunno, I think that was kind of normal for the citizens of Ponyville. I'd have a hard time believing everyone was nice 24/7. Or that there were no meanies.
HMorris73 17th May 2012, 11:43 AM edit delete reply
I liked the characterization in Putting Your Hoof Down, it's one of my favorite eps. Top 11 anyway.
DracoS 17th May 2012, 1:09 PM edit delete reply
In Angel's defense, he tried several times to get her to look at the cloud BEFORE resorting to the headlock.
Ephemeral 18th May 2012, 11:44 PM edit delete reply
Well, you just can't put two characters named "Angel" and "Spike" in the same scene and NOT have them annoy the crud out of each other.
Tatsurou 18th Apr 2014, 9:44 PM edit delete reply

I can't believe I didn't see that connection until you pointed it out!
Guest 17th May 2012, 8:38 AM edit delete reply
Oh no, they love it, at least Larson do.!/M_A_Larson/status/202228810580635649
Guest 17th May 2012, 8:30 PM edit delete reply
Actually I don't think they were trying to redeem Angel in Hurricane Fluttershy. For one thing, the timing doesn't work out. HF aired only three weeks after Putting Your Hoof Down, so they were in production more or less simultaneously. Ultimately, the difference is that HF was a Cindy Morrow episode and PYHD was a Merriwether Williams one.
Zuche 17th May 2012, 6:59 AM edit delete reply
I like Angel. I also liked how he was portrayed in that episode. Fluttershy tends to treat him like he's a toddler, so it was good to see him display a temper tantrum for once.

Angel's had to get Fluttershy to admit the truth on one occasion, he's had to keep her on time for an appointment, and he's guarded her against people who had not acted in her best interests at least one occasion. This is more than should be expected from someone treated more as a young child than as a pet, more than should be expected of a pet or even a trained working animal.

In short, he's not a bad monster. He just made a bad decision.
ben_nbtmn 17th May 2012, 7:49 AM edit delete reply
I have to aree, I find Angel very funny most of the time, and Fluttershy really does need somepony to push her through the door sometimes. I often wish I had someone like that to give me a kick up the ass into things like job interviews.

In Putting Your Hoof Down... yeah. I think it was meant to come across as "cartoon" rather than "realistic" violence, but still, somebody during the production should have spotted how much like domestic abuse it looked and pointed it out.
Ranubis 17th May 2012, 6:16 AM edit delete reply
RD: "Really? A weak, little rabbit? Nice job wasting what could have been such an awesome-"

FS: "Angel? Show her just how 'weak' you are. Um, if you don't mind, that is."
Zarhon 17th May 2012, 9:35 AM edit delete reply
Angel obviously has levels in monk.

How else could he stun-slap and then literally throw Fluttershy out of her house?

Not to mention how he was Fluttershy's trainer in "Hurricane Fluttershy". He must have trained at the local bunny dojo.
Dragonfodder 17th May 2012, 2:03 PM edit delete reply
RD should never underestimate the power of the wee folk. I am in a campaign with a pixie barbarian who can smack a dragon halfway across a room in one turn.
Demonu 18th May 2012, 8:31 AM edit delete reply
Okay, you have got to tell us how that pixie barbarian came to be because that sounds awesome.
MirrorImage 18th May 2012, 8:53 AM edit delete reply
Indeed, though clarification as to its Level would be nice as well.

I had a 4e half orc barbarian that could perform a charge attack at 100ft (at Level 1, mind you), so in my case it was less "Throwing the enemies across the room" as it was "Throwing myself across the room.":
Base speed 6, racial +2 bonus to speed while running/charging, feat to add further +2 while charging, resulting in a move action run (speed 10) followed by a charge attack (speed 8). The standard battle strategy was "I hide outside the doorway while my comrades go in. At the first sign of trouble, I punch the king on his throne."
Other Guest 17th May 2012, 8:21 PM edit delete reply
RD: I kick the bunny around town.
GM: The bunny easily dodges, attacking you for 60 points damage. You almost lose a wing and spend weeks in Ponyville hospital.
RD: Is this some kind of cruel joke?
MirrorImage 17th May 2012, 10:14 PM edit delete reply
GM: "Oh, did I say 60? Sorry, I forgot Angel deals double-damage while enraged."
RD: "Wait, the bunny has levels in Barbarian as well?!"
Dragonfodder 17th May 2012, 11:09 PM edit delete reply
RD: "What do you mean it is wielding a large +3 Mordenkrad as a 'size appropriate weapon?'"
Zuche 18th May 2012, 11:05 AM edit delete reply
Could be worse. Frenzied Berserker could be an option.
phredd 17th May 2012, 6:17 AM edit delete reply
Angel will cut you.
masterofgames 17th May 2012, 9:26 AM edit delete reply
Angel is here.

It has begun...
JohnBobMead 17th May 2012, 6:27 AM Cute little white rabbit... edit delete reply
Monty Python and the Holy Grail also had a cute little white rabbit.
PikalaxALT 17th May 2012, 6:33 AM edit delete reply
Its victims were lucky. They would have stumbled on the favorite color question and fallen to their doom. Being devoured by a rabbit is a much better way to go.

Besides, they're not quite dead; they're feeling better.
The MunchKING 17th May 2012, 6:36 AM edit delete reply
The MunchKING
There's a big difference between MOSTLY dead, and all dead.

Mostly dead, there's still some alive.

All dead, there's generally only one thing to do.
Sharp Note 17th May 2012, 6:44 AM edit delete reply
Sharp Note
"What's that?"

"Search their saddlebags for loose bits."
Zuche 17th May 2012, 7:02 AM edit delete reply
If the bridge scene was reenacted for bronies, "WHAT is your favourite colour?" could be rewritten as, "WHO is best pony?"
Digo 17th May 2012, 7:19 AM edit delete reply
"What do you mean, Mane 6 or background pony?"
Zuche 17th May 2012, 12:34 PM edit delete reply
Well played, Digo. Well played.
kriss1989 18th May 2012, 6:48 AM edit delete reply
"Either, they're not exclusive from each other."
darkwulf23 17th May 2012, 6:51 AM edit delete reply
Imagine if Fluttershy actually had a bear as an animal companion.

FS: Oh good, one last cherry, I need it so much.

Cherry Seller: Oh you need this cherry. In that case 10 bits.

'Bear growls'

CS: Wait, what is that!?

FS: Oh Angel? He's my new animal companion.

'Bear sits down and eyes the seller'

FS: He's a bear.
Colin 17th May 2012, 9:00 AM edit delete reply
It's perfect. :-D
Zarhon 17th May 2012, 9:51 AM edit delete reply
A timberwolf would be a much better choice to be honest, since it's effectively a treant wolf... High AC, swift, high damage, and no need to feed it (and probably doesn't need to sleep as such either).

Just keep it away from your campfires.
modulusshift 17th May 2012, 7:59 PM edit delete reply
Nice slip in from Party of One there.
kriss1989 18th May 2012, 6:55 AM edit delete reply
I don't see anything from Party of One.
darkwulf23 18th May 2012, 3:00 PM edit delete reply
Party of One, when Fluttershy was making an excuse for not going to Pinkie's party, she said she was house sitting.
Digo 17th May 2012, 7:25 AM SubOptimal edit delete reply
Ah yes, those crazy player characters. You ever had a player want you to house-rule something so they can get something that would really be sub-optimal, yet they love it for the RP flavor?
It's admirable that a PC would do such a thing, but hey if it's what makes them happy...

I have a player who wanted a ferret familair solely for flavor and I guess he had ideas for using it with his Rogue abilities to sneak around. However, he never did use it for that. Just kept it at "home" most of the time or in his travel bag.
Colin 17th May 2012, 8:58 AM edit delete reply
I confess I did it with my current 4E character. I would be a *much* more effective debuffer as a telepathic psion (all the TK attacks target Fortitude), but I love being a 5-foot-nothing teenager that throws griffins (plus rider) at other enemies with her mind. :-)
Digo 17th May 2012, 11:19 AM edit delete reply
Its kind of how I always play humans in any Vampire/Werewolf/Mage game. I'm quite underpowered, but I have a lot of fun using my skills and smarts to keep up with everyone else.
And most of the time I do.
xuincherguixe 19th May 2012, 12:04 AM edit delete reply
Is that old or new world of darkness?

If it's oWoD Humans can get Sorcery. And that stuff can be terrifying.

It's not considered Vulgar. Not even when you're summoning demons or throwing fireballs or ripping peoples skins off in crowded shopping malls. More relevant though might be the ability to turn invisible or make people forget they met you. Or hey, there's probably some way for you to add extra dice to your team mates rolls.
Dragonflight 17th May 2012, 7:33 AM edit delete reply
In the Calandia game I'm running, one of the players is a mage/Adept. I ported in some of the "Tayledras" detail from the Valdemar series by Mercedes Lackey, to add some flavor to the mage class. So he was playing a Tayledras adept. And since they practice a form of genetic engineering through breeding which creates bird familiars about 1.5 times the size of a normal bird, he had this huge hawk familiar.

Now, this hawk was also gifted with enhanced intellect, and the player's character had a "Oooh! Shiny!" character flaw built into his character. So he'd often get distracted from the plot at hand by something (or someone) who looked interesting. Usually it fell to the hawk to keep the player moving in the right direction, often with accompanying actions and squawking which leaves the entire group in stitches.
kriss1989 18th May 2012, 6:58 AM edit delete reply
My friend's Warlock's raven familiar in 4E actively derail the group. It can talk, and is made out of the Warlock's pure Id. And even though it is immaterial, it keeps trying to eat random eyeballs.
Theo 17th May 2012, 8:32 AM edit delete reply
Nice screen grab for Angel, he looks so annoyed at being called cute.
Zeeth 17th May 2012, 8:46 AM edit delete reply
I recall one game I played in, my character died. I really liked the group and wanted to keep playing, but they really weren't in a position to add another character to the party. One of the other characters had a dog, and I asked if I could play it instead. Everyone looked, and... the DM said, "Sure!"

My nose was the gateway to the world! And when we investigated the ruins we'd come ton, instead of pointing everyone at the Big Freaking Clue we came across, I did a doggy thing and ran off to smell stuff and dig for rats.
Namagem 17th May 2012, 9:29 AM edit delete reply
So she's actually a sentinel druid? Or did she take a feat that got her the sentinel's animal companion?

Are any of the other characters the essential variants? Just out of curiosity?
Zarhon 17th May 2012, 9:47 AM edit delete reply
Fluttershy's tail in Panel 1.

Can't tell if she's hiding a spear, or if she transformed it into a natural weapon (whip/spiked tail).
Azureink 17th May 2012, 12:45 PM edit delete reply
She does occasionally tail-whip her friends.
mlp_redmoon 17th May 2012, 10:49 AM edit delete reply
it should have been angel, no other animal has been on-scene with fluttershy and has recurred more than (or even) once.
Laurence 17th May 2012, 12:48 PM edit delete reply
In 3.5, the Frostfell book had a list of animal companions and familiars with a 'frozen north' feel to them. Thanks to that, my wizard now has Avalanche, my lemming familiar. I always keep a Feather Fall spell memorized, just for him.
Zuche 17th May 2012, 1:41 PM edit delete reply
You prepared that spell just in case people from a certain "magical kingdom" attempt to throw him off a cliff, yes?
kriss1989 18th May 2012, 6:59 AM edit delete reply
You do know that's an urban myth that was started when Disney pushed hundreds of lemmings off a cliff so that they would have a more interesting ending to their nature documentary right?
Demonu 18th May 2012, 8:32 AM edit delete reply
Disney filmes nature documentaries?
kriss1989 19th May 2012, 9:40 AM edit delete reply
Used to, back in the old black and White days.Little nature films that showed as part of the news real, serial, variety mix that all day theaters would run.
Zuche 18th May 2012, 11:08 AM edit delete reply
And here I was trying to be subtle. ;)
modulusshift 17th May 2012, 8:02 PM edit delete reply
On the subject of hilarious animal companions, I'm officially getting Poshul as one in a session at some point. Chrono Cross is just old enough for me to pull it off with my friends.
Karilyn 18th May 2012, 5:42 AM edit delete reply
I'm not that big on Poshul. Pip on the other hand is squeeeeeee <3
The MunchKING 23rd May 2012, 1:28 PM edit delete reply
The MunchKING
Interceptor was cooler.

I swear I never saw him do less than 3000 Damage.
Crow T. Robot 17th May 2012, 8:41 PM edit delete reply
We had to pay out EXP for python riffs while at the gaming table. Repeat offenders had to buy the chips for next session.
Jomoru 17th May 2012, 11:41 PM edit delete reply
what about Life of Brian references?
Copper Hamster 18th May 2012, 7:44 AM edit delete reply
Had a character in a game where the weapon skills were along the lines of 'Hit things with 1 handed things' that took a flaw that he only fought with swords. Not that he could only knew how to fight with swords, but that that he considered it a point of honor that only swords were worthy of him. But he had a snoggin lot of skill points in hitting things.

I kept getting penalized for Princess Bride references ("I am not left handed" was a good go to. And he wasn't. He was ambidexterous)
Though I took a few lines from Fezzik as well. He was a 'quiping' agile type fighter.

On an unrelated note:
It was embarrassing for him (but hilarious from my point of view) when he got thrown into a death-pit arena match type thing against the local slave-grinder champion... with a mace, after having been only captured when overwhelmed by 6 guards and 3 spellcasters. I literally spent the next real half hour or sofighting defensively. The crowd got so pissed off. It was like an hour game time, and at first they thought it was hilarious that their big champion couldn't lay a finger on me but then they got bored. I was having to dodge projectiles from the crowd as well. Anyway, finally bored tyrant dude sends in a couple of his guards to help get me cornered and torn apart.

Oh, the guards have swords? Spend... oh I forget what they were called but it was something like 'cinematic points', and let you do more over the top manuvers (but you still had to make die rolls for them).

I dropped the battered mace, somersault over one of the guards, grapple him from behind, use his sword to kill the other (mook class) guard that was charging at us, kick him away, grab the sword from the dead guard, dodge the big guy who is tired, and very pissed off because I've been using a skill that's basically 'spiderman style piss them off banter' for the last hour as well so he just tramples the other guard trying to get to me, pick up the other sword that's been dropped. Face off against big hulking guy (He was like 9 feet tall) and guard that gets back up and picks up my mace.

"So are you ready to surrender or do make with the slashing? Cause I like the slashing."

Fight lasted about 60 in game seconds after that. Would have been faster but the big guy took a lot of punishment!
kriss1989 18th May 2012, 7:53 AM edit delete reply
So as far as the Tyrant knows, you were purposefully BUY SOME APPLES around with him and only dragged out the fight to boor and embarrass him.
AJBulldis 18th May 2012, 2:58 AM edit delete reply
To use 3rd edition parlance, I would treat Angel as a flaw that makes an animal companion far less useful than it ought to be, due to being a disagreeable prick in general. So Fluttershy should get a bonus feat.
Colin 18th May 2012, 6:21 AM edit delete reply
You have to roll Diplomacy every time you order him around.
kriss1989 18th May 2012, 7:02 AM edit delete reply
You know, with all our talk of animal companions, familiars, and Angel, I realized something. Despite it being a classic, Wizards/Sorcerers cannot have a white rabbit as a familiar. Now what are they going to pull out of their hats?
PrincessSpectra 18th May 2012, 7:44 AM edit delete reply
Carrots? =P
kriss1989 18th May 2012, 7:54 AM edit delete reply
And then what are they going to give those carrots to huh? What are they going to give those carrot to?
Zarhon 18th May 2012, 8:30 AM edit delete reply
Miniature cosmic hamsters.
Digo 18th May 2012, 10:44 AM edit delete reply
"Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!!"
Zuche 18th May 2012, 11:12 AM edit delete reply
The Hundred Acre Wood has never been the same since Minsc took up residence in it.
Demonu 18th May 2012, 8:34 AM edit delete reply
Other Wizards or Sorcerers?
Zuche 18th May 2012, 11:13 AM edit delete reply
You don't keep a familiar in your hat! That's where you keep the ingredients and seasonings for stew.
Zarhon 18th May 2012, 2:25 PM edit delete reply
Fireproof and waterproof your wizard hat, and you've got a portable cauldron!
Chakat Firepaw 20th May 2012, 11:18 AM edit delete reply
True, however Pathfinder lets you get close: You can have a flying squirrel.
Lyntermas 18th May 2012, 1:22 PM edit delete reply
What if Angel is actually a human from our world stuck in the form of a bunny? He's generally a selfish guy who hates the continual patronization he receives from Fluttershy, but he has taken it upon himself to take care of her...if for no other reason than to get her out of the house.

Alt-script prediction time.
FS: Angel, please finish your carrot. Please?
DM: Angel kicks the carrot away and looks to the sky. He pauses, looks at you, then starts coughing.
FS: Oh, dear. Are you alright?
DM: Angel continues coughing, while seemingly nodding his head toward the sky.
FS: Do you have some carrot stuck in your throat?
DM: Angel makes an exaggerated cough, then lifts your head so that you look at a large plume of black smoke coming from a mountain and headed toward Ponyville.
FS: Is it because of that big icky black cloud.
DM: Angel crosses his arm and gives you a look that says, "What do you think?"
RD: I think I'm starting to like this rabbit.
Urthdigger 18th May 2012, 8:02 PM edit delete reply
*insert yet another story of using my weasel familiar to save the day here*
kriss1989 19th May 2012, 9:42 AM edit delete reply
Wait, have you ever told one story of that?
Urthdigger 21st May 2012, 3:43 PM edit delete reply
MOST of my stories I post here concern Sakeek managing to save the day, or at least coming close to doing so.
Raxon 21st Jun 2012, 7:34 PM edit delete reply
And he is the best weasel!
TechUnadept 6th Mar 2014, 1:27 AM rdn edit delete reply
...He is also a raging douche-nozzle.