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Solar Vendetta
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Newbiespud 31st May 2012, 6:00 AM edit delete
Nightmare Moon: Remove the sun, enforce night eternal.
Dragon: Cover up the sun with smoke.
Discord: Switch the sun and moon really quickly.
Chrysalis: KO the sun pony.

The sun seems to be the yardstick for trouble in Equestria.

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Sigh 31st May 2012, 6:01 AM edit delete reply
Well it IS the universal constant, messing with that shows you mean business.
Digo 31st May 2012, 6:03 AM edit delete reply
I guess in a fight, the villains like to go for the... solar plexus. :D
Saddlesoap Opera 31st May 2012, 6:06 AM edit delete reply

darkwulf23 31st May 2012, 6:08 AM edit delete reply
darkwulf23 31st May 2012, 6:08 AM edit delete reply
Ah you beat me to it.
The Guest 31st May 2012, 7:29 AM edit delete reply
If you want to establish a villainous reputation, you need to make sure your opposition is... overshadowed.
The Guest 31st May 2012, 7:30 AM edit delete reply
Also, your pun has now been... eclipsed.
The Guest 31st May 2012, 7:32 AM edit delete reply
Better come up with a good counter, or it's... lights out.
Digo 31st May 2012, 9:16 AM edit delete reply
Dang, you make one sun joke and then everyone is fission for bad puns to join the banter. :D
Suburbanbanshee 31st May 2012, 9:20 AM edit delete reply
It's all about the equine-nox.
Zuche 31st May 2012, 9:22 AM edit delete reply
I just don't see the point of all this. Perhaps someone could illuminate it for me? It's left me feeling a bit isolated.
The Guest 31st May 2012, 10:14 AM edit delete reply
I'd shed some light on the matter, but I too am in the dark.
Siosilvar 31st May 2012, 10:22 AM edit delete reply
...the sun uses fusion, not fission. Good try though.
Digo 31st May 2012, 11:17 AM edit delete reply
I guess the part where its about bad puns came off as a little nuclear in context? :)
Colt_of_Personality 31st May 2012, 9:51 AM edit delete reply
Bronymous 31st May 2012, 10:36 AM edit delete reply
darkwulf23 31st May 2012, 12:25 PM edit delete reply
darkwulf23\ (the last panel)

You all can decide which one goes where.
RinaldoLuke 31st May 2012, 1:24 PM edit delete reply
Puns aside, the PCs now have to find that dragon and... smoke him out.
Artsy 31st May 2012, 2:47 PM edit delete reply
Perhaps we could celest a better idea to the creators?
kriss1989 31st May 2012, 5:47 PM edit delete reply
A star entered a singularities gravity well, but doesn't seem phased. The singularity turned to the star and aked"Do you understand the gravity of the situation?"
Super_Big_Mac 1st Jul 2013, 11:40 AM Razzafrazz edit delete reply
Really? I would have said that Celestia's just being....

Hotduelist 6th Jan 2014, 2:32 PM ouch edit delete reply
that seems like a 4d6 damage pun
Ranubis 31st May 2012, 6:05 AM edit delete reply
NMM: "Well, if at first you don't succeed... Bribe some monster to do the dirty work for you."

Smaug: "Hey! Who are you calling a monster?"
darkwulf23 31st May 2012, 6:06 AM edit delete reply
Hey, when the most powerful being in the kingdom (Princessdom?) of esquestria happens to be the sun "goddess?" herself, well that just ends up serving as the villain's goal post.
PikalaxALT 31st May 2012, 6:28 AM edit delete reply
Correction: Cadence and Shining Armor combined are the most powerful in all of Equestria. Chrysalis defeated Celestia, and Cadence and Shining Armor combined their power to defeat Chrysalis.
Digo 31st May 2012, 6:38 AM edit delete reply
True, though it was two against one where Celestia was by herself. I wonder what a combined Celestia/Luna attack would be like?
Vegetalss4 31st May 2012, 6:50 AM edit delete reply
To be specific:
The Power of Love is* the greatest power in Equestria.
This is true even when the love in question is stolen, as demonstrated by Queen Chrysalis

*or at least one of
redwings1340 31st May 2012, 9:56 AM edit delete reply
Idk, I think the elements of harmony is the most powerful force in Equestria, although by their nature, I'm not sure it's possible for the elements of harmony to attack true love combined with a magical forcefield, at least not directly. Although I suppose if it were evil characters with true love, the confrontation could happen. I think the elements would come out on top here.
YeGuilty 1st Jun 2012, 12:23 PM edit delete reply
what about evil villains who are good friends vs true love between good ponies.
Zuche 31st May 2012, 9:57 AM edit delete reply
I get the feeling that Celestial was understandably reluctant to display the true power of her fully armed and operational battle station.
Lawzl 31st May 2012, 5:18 PM edit delete reply
Your logic makes sense, but I have to say that we should leave out deciding what the most powerful force in Equestria is until ponies start using death magic or blood magic... Or both.
DanielLC 31st May 2012, 2:51 PM edit delete reply
Shining armor won because his special talent was relevant. Celestia's special talent is the sun, which would have taken sixteen minutes round trip to use, during which time Chrysalis would have moved.
Gyvon 1st Jun 2012, 9:35 AM edit delete reply
Celestia was holding back. She could've fried Chrysalis without even blinking if she wanted.
HMorris73 4th Jun 2012, 2:04 PM edit delete reply
You realize that's just your headcanon right?
MWS 31st May 2012, 6:38 AM edit delete reply
I suppose it would be a principality. The fact that a queen rules doesn't make it the United Queendom (which sounds like a gay pride parade in a bad comedy movie).
Derpmind 31st May 2012, 6:44 AM edit delete reply
Nope, this is the most powerful is:
Limitless Zero 31st May 2012, 6:47 AM edit delete reply
Limitless Zero
Gah! That is the ugliest embodiment of all things ponies, friendship, and awesome of all time D:
kriss1989 31st May 2012, 5:51 PM edit delete reply
A better looking and more powerful version.
Limitless Zero 1st Jun 2012, 5:59 PM edit delete reply
Limitless Zero
♫Ho Go Friendship Rangers! You mighty morphin' Friendship Ranger-ers!♫
Rokas 31st May 2012, 9:58 AM edit delete reply
Celestia is the new Worf.
Guest 1st Jun 2012, 7:47 AM edit delete reply
All fanon aside, Celestia's notional combat prowess is largely a mystery. She's important because she's the Princess of Equestria and keeps the sun moving on schedule (a task whose actual difficulty is hard to judge in cartoon-land) -- but we don't know of a single canon battle she's ever *won* that didn't also involve the Elements of Harmony, so far.

As such, calling her "the new Worf" seems to be missing the point a bit because Celestia has never fully been *established* as as a major physical badass in the first place. (If anypony on the show wears that particular hat, I'd say the mane underneath is more likely a bit more rainbow-colored.)
HMorris73 4th Jun 2012, 2:07 PM edit delete reply
Aside from the sun thing her only actual power feat was cancelling Twilight's spell in Lesson Zero.
Raxon 22nd Jun 2012, 12:13 AM edit delete reply
Of course, she could simply be a more laid back, gentle, non-shouting version of Kamina. Relatively weak, but very skillful and efficient, which lets her use magic very efficiently. You know, with training up a newb in the ways of the for- err, fighting spi-umm, friendship. Yeah, that's the one. Friendship.
Guest 31st May 2012, 6:44 AM edit delete reply
Ah catching the not-so-subtle hint from the dm of impending disaster if you ignore the quest. Forever a classic.
deeman45 31st May 2012, 8:48 AM edit delete reply
Hey, it's the hook for a new quest. You gotta establish the stakes ASAP.

Railroading is totally acceptable early on so that the players know what they're supposed to do, and can completely wreck things later. =p
Digo 31st May 2012, 9:18 AM edit delete reply
I find it sad when some of my players don't want to go do what the very point of the game is about - Adventuring.
Azureink 31st May 2012, 8:31 AM edit delete reply
I like how player Pinkie Pie used the "beauty sleep" joke that Rarity used in the TV show, and then player Rarity said how awful the joke is. D&D Rarity does not like TV Rarity's jokes.
CmndrHurricane 1st Jun 2012, 3:20 AM edit delete reply
that's what that was about?
well, that instantly makes it alot funnier
Qin the Kirin 31st May 2012, 8:58 AM edit delete reply
all the sun related jokes where Brilliants XD.
Zuche 31st May 2012, 9:30 AM edit delete reply
Was Pinkie's last line a reference to her "twitchy tail" tendencies?
Bronymous 31st May 2012, 10:41 AM edit delete reply
More of a reference to the "Wow-we-already-did-this-the-DM-is-being-unoriginal-deja-vu" tendencies of any DnD player.

Also, Pavlov. I think.
Zuche 31st May 2012, 11:04 AM edit delete reply
Well, no, those were obvious. I was just wondering if it was also a nod to the other.
Dragonfodder 1st Jun 2012, 12:35 AM edit delete reply
#840. Even if it would have immediately solved the last six adventures, I won't throw dynamite in every well I come across.

read the 2050 things that Mr. Welch can no longer do in an RPG. It is awesome.
Zuche 1st Jun 2012, 6:36 AM edit delete reply
Mostly awesome. The guy's like Daffy Duck at his worst sometimes, mistaking contrariness for creativity.
Raxon 22nd Jun 2012, 12:18 AM edit delete reply
I dunno, I've gotten some pretty good ideas for characters from him. I particularly like my lawful good cancer mage, who is also also an alchemist specializing in medicines and antidotes.
Lyntermas 31st May 2012, 12:33 PM edit delete reply
Oh no! If the mane six don't solve this problem soon, Ponyville will turn into..Los Angeles! DUN DUN DUUUUN!

AJ: It seems your campaigns in Equestria have this perpetual darkness theme. Did you do a lot of planning for that when you writing out our campaign against NMM?
DM: What? No, of course not. It's not like I specifically made a quest to come up with an alternate way to raise crops until you defeated her. Or a scenario where an artificial curfew was imposed so that ponies all went to sleep and woke up at relatively the same time. Or a sweet little filly that would ask "Mommy, will the sun come back in time for my birthday?" and the mother would cry and it would melt your hearts and you GUESSED IT ALL IN THE FIRST FREAKING SESSION.
DM:Just..just go deal with the dragon already.
Jason Shadow 31st May 2012, 4:47 PM edit delete reply
Los Angeles? That's an allusion to the season of Angel when the Beast blocked out the sun, right?

Hmm, I wonder who would be who if you tried to fit the MLP characters into roles from the Buffyverse. I totally say that Lyra should be Lorne, and Gilda might make a good Spike (the BtVS Spike, obviously), but other than that, I don't have much.
Newbiespud 31st May 2012, 4:48 PM edit delete reply

But I kid. I just love/hate how good all these alt-scripts are.

@Jason Shadow: No, I'm pretty sure that was just a jab at L.A. in general.
Lyntermas 31st May 2012, 9:39 PM edit delete reply
Hope I didn't steal one of your punchlines. I just like to extrapolate off of the story you've created. I can focus on other episodes if you like.

Alternate line for the filly:

Filly:"Mommy, I...I broke your vase the day before the sun went away. Did the sun leave because I did that? I'm really sorry. I tried putting it back together with glue, but it's not working right. Can you help me put it back together? And *sniff* can you tell the sun I'm sorry? Please, Mommy?"

...Great, now I'm depressed.
Malbutorius 31st May 2012, 10:46 PM edit delete reply
same here pal, same here.
Guest 31st May 2012, 10:58 PM edit delete reply
Read this as I was listening to a sad song, woo~

/claws out own throat and dies
Ranubis 1st Jun 2012, 4:43 AM edit delete reply
Zuche 1st Jun 2012, 7:00 AM edit delete reply
Aren't those called contact lenses?
darkwulf23 1st Jun 2012, 7:41 AM edit delete reply
Actually those plot points are a really good idea for an internal darkness threat. If I ran an eternal darkness thing I probably would have trouble coming up with something like that.
kriss1989 1st Jun 2012, 9:19 AM edit delete reply
Is it wrong that I'm grinning like a maniac at the second set of filly lines? I just feel so much joy at it.
Zarhon 1st Jun 2012, 9:56 AM edit delete reply
Alternate, alternate filly line: "PC guilt" edition.

Filly: "Mommy, when is the sun coming out? It's so dark and I'm scared and I tried to go sleep like you told me to when I'm scared but then I saw the night mare and I woke up, but it was still dark so I'm scared again. Is Celestia angry at us?"
Mom: "No my child, she is just... sleeping."
Filly: "Why doesn't somepony wake her up, so we can have the sun back?"
Mom: *sobbing* "I don't know..."

aaand a special "DM guilt" edition:

Filly:"Mommy, why is the dark mare so mean to us? Isn't she the sun mare's sister? Doesn't that mean they both have a mommy of their own? Whenever I'm bad, you scold me. Why isn't the dark mare's mommy scolding her, mommy? ...Mommy, why are you crying?

And in case you didn't have enough tears, here's this:
Zuche 1st Jun 2012, 7:10 AM edit delete reply
Since June should not start with so much sadness, I am going to share something rather absurd.

Do you remember when the Celestia doll was pink, because stores wanted her in that colour? It turns out that the stores weren't wrong. It's just that neither the stores nor the show were ever able to accurately portray Celestia's colour, and opted for equally (in)valid approximations.

What colour is Celestia, you may ask?

She's invisible pink.
darkwulf23 1st Jun 2012, 7:45 AM edit delete reply
Can anything that is invisible actually have a color?
Zuche 1st Jun 2012, 9:12 AM edit delete reply
No, no, see, Celestia isn't herself invisible. It's the shade of her coat's colour that's invisible, even though the coat itself can clearly be seen.

Paradox is fun, especially when you don't have to take it seriously.
darkwulf23 1st Jun 2012, 6:32 PM edit delete reply
And if you think too hard on it this happens

To your Mind
kriss1989 1st Jun 2012, 9:22 AM edit delete reply
The Invisible Pink Unicorn needs to just go away.......did it work?
Zuche 1st Jun 2012, 9:55 AM edit delete reply
Well, Nietzche Moon managed to send her away for a little while that one time in the pilot, and I understand she was hiding out in a bowling alley during the Discordian incident.
deeman45 1st Jun 2012, 8:58 AM edit delete reply
Invisible Pink Unicorn, eh? Don't worry Zuche, I get the reference. :D
Zuche 1st Jun 2012, 9:19 AM edit delete reply
The moment I heard about the dolls, it clicked. I could hardly have believed that coincidence would throw a joke like that at me out of nowhere, because it was just too perfect for words.

It was the same way when I realized that one of the background characters, the one responsible for much havoc at town hall in The Last Roundup, is a blonde with a bubble butt. I refuse to believe that one was a coincidence.
Bronymous 1st Jun 2012, 12:13 PM edit delete reply
I can't even be sure if you're being serious anymore.
Zuche 1st Jun 2012, 12:46 PM edit delete reply
They're just trivial connections. Absence of design doesn't make them less real, but might make them more amusing to some.

Here's another one. In "The Cutie Mark Chronicles", Twilight Sparkle tells of her attempt to get into Princess Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns.

That's right. Twilight was nearly a C-Pony.
Bronymous 1st Jun 2012, 1:29 PM edit delete reply
Then maybe I just don't understand what connections you're making. For example: I got "C-Pony", but I don't understand what about Twilight nearly made her one.

Also, the thing about the dolls just soared over my head. Invisible pink could reference invisible pink elephants, but you lost me where the dolls came in.

Another example, when you referenced Derpy, the "blonde with a bubble butt", but took care not to mention her by name. Was that significant, you chose not to say it, or did you just not know it?

Trivial, indeed.
Zuche 1st Jun 2012, 2:05 PM edit delete reply
Well, I don't wish to engage in floccinaucinihilipilication, but I will answer your questions. The name was omitted on a whim. Regardless of which version of the episode you saw, you could identify the pony.

A Google search will explain the Invisible Pink Unicorn better than I can. I'd try, but I suspect I'd only make it more confusing at this point.

As for the C-Ponies, if Twilight had been accepted into Princess C's group, she'd be the equivalent of someone in Professor X's team. Sorry if I'm explaining them poorly.
Bronymous 1st Jun 2012, 6:25 PM edit delete reply

Then that means C-Pony does not equal Sea Pony, like I thought.
darkwulf23 1st Jun 2012, 6:36 PM edit delete reply
Ok, that explains a hell of a lot.
xuincherguixe 1st Jun 2012, 2:04 PM edit delete reply
Silly Rainbow Dash. It doesn't matter if it's rampaging or not. That's just what you tell them when they ask you what happened. The important thing is that the dragon has treasure, and you do not.
Crimson Doom 2nd Jun 2012, 5:27 AM edit delete reply
Crimson Doom
Spike better not get any treasure, then, because who knows how far that philosophy would extend...
Hayate 1st Jun 2012, 9:11 PM edit delete reply
And my new religion is now invisible pink unicorns. Thank you very much..
Destrustor 31st Jan 2013, 11:39 AM edit delete reply
The Flying Spaghetti Monster has more class, I say.