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Newbiespud 2nd Nov 2019, 6:00 AM edit delete
And now, welcome to Turkey Month 2019.

Deadline for guest comics is coming up in less than a week!

Notice: Guest comic submissions are open! Guidelines here. Deadline: January 27th, 2023.



Cliff Snowpeak 2nd Nov 2019, 6:05 AM edit delete reply
We're doing A Canterlot Wedding next!?
aylatrigger 2nd Nov 2019, 8:04 AM edit delete reply
I hope so! BBBFF always reminded me of my big brothers... And then of course one of my brothers married someone and it got awkwardly more and more accurate as she turned abusive.. He is divorced now thankfully.
The Wedding Fiasco 2nd Nov 2019, 1:18 PM edit delete reply
Let's hope things change and they find that Chrysalis was Cadence (not sure how it work with Ocellus player around) and don't put it as Twilight jealousy and stress. And I wonder how bad could it go.
Tatsurou 2nd Nov 2019, 5:09 PM edit delete reply
Alternatively, it could turn out the fiance is a huge roleplayer and plays both Cadence and Chrysalis to really screw with things.
MechaDitz 3rd Nov 2019, 9:32 PM edit delete reply
To be fair, it's like the only major event left with unicorn Twilight shots, so I imagine it's less less editing. Well, ok, probably not much less XD
BackSet 2nd Nov 2019, 6:12 AM edit delete reply
Don't worry Twilight, I'm bad at communicating with my family (and anyone else, really) too.

Anyway, stories about awkward games?
Steel Resolve 2nd Nov 2019, 6:18 AM edit delete reply
Well, Twilight? IS your bro BBBFF material now?
Ether Space 2nd Nov 2019, 6:45 AM edit delete reply
I have a story time question:
Has your DM ever given your character(s) a gift that you didn't ask for, and it caused changes in character priorities or abilities? (For better or worse?)
Bed Head 2nd Nov 2019, 7:32 AM edit delete reply
Well no, but there was this one time my character got a sex change due to a reincarnation spell.

Not much of a story there though. My character died (in a pretty epic way at that) and the party decided to have him resurrected instead of making me roll up a new character.

Since this was Pathfinder and we were lower-mid-level the best spell we had access to for this was Reincarnation, which has a strong chance of changing the character's race upon revival. But, as luck would have it, the DM rolled the same race (Half-Orc) that I already was.

Then he decided to also toss an extra coin. We didn't realize why until it's announced my half-orc wakes up with some... unfamiliar ornamentation.

To be fair it changed next to nothing about my character, and due to how Reincarnation worked I actually came out of it with a better Constitution score than before. But that's how Gaius the Pious became Gaia (still "the Pious" but it sounded less impressive without the rhyme).
Akouma 2nd Nov 2019, 7:55 AM edit delete reply
Pretty recently, actually. So, my friends are playing in a game set in Critical Role's universe. I joined a few sessions in and since I didn't watch the show I wanted an in-character reason to know absolutely nothing beyond some cursory facts about the deity I'm a Paladin for. So, I float this idea to the DM to be an Aetherborn Paladin. Aetherborn aren't native to this world. My backstory is basically that I was created directly by this setting's god of the fae ad a sort of experiment. Just to see what happens, you know? Make a new life-form and just kinda'... let it into the wild for funsies. My character is absolutely convinced they've been created for some higher purpose and just hasn't been told it because deities work in mysterious ways, but I explicitly told the DM that's a belief my character has that isn't true.

A few months in (and at this point a few months ago) we go on this long quest that has a bunch if ties to my deity, and at the end of it we find an ancient Aetheborn (and to those that play M:tG yes, "ancient Aetherborn" is a gigantic red of a phrase) standing atop a small pile of Aetherborn corpses. I land the killing blow, and somehow absorb its power. I'm then taken aside by the DM to hear the words of my deity telling me my purpose is to hunt, destroy, and consume three corrupted beings including this one.

So on the one hand, really cool personal quest that comes with some dope highlander powers. On the other, DAMMIT DM THIS IS LITERALLY THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF MY INITIAL CONCEPT.

To be clear, I'm actually not mad because I'm really enjoying the quest and it adds some additional depth to playing the character, but there was definitely some frustration there.
Malroth 2nd Nov 2019, 11:50 AM edit delete reply
Diety could have been lying. "um... Yeah killing these things I totally diddn't forget about is your purpose you've been searching for yeah that's right here's some lightning special effects so it seems important maybe?"
Akouma 2nd Nov 2019, 7:47 PM edit delete reply
That's true, coulda' been. Given that my targets all have connections to our various other bads I don't get that vibe, but it's certainly plausible.
Digo Dragon 2nd Nov 2019, 8:17 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Yeah, and when I asked to discuss my character concept in order to find an appropriate gift that my class could actually use, he took back the gift and gave me nothing.
albedoequals1 2nd Nov 2019, 9:06 AM edit delete reply
My barbarian found an abandoned baby.

That basically changed her whole character over the next few months, and she ended up married and responsible. Not at all what I had in mind for the character, but in hindsight, much better.
Enigmatic Jack 2nd Nov 2019, 5:38 PM edit delete reply
Well, there was a Star Wars d20 game where my non-Jedi Force Sensitive tech ended up with a Sith holocron...
Derpmind 2nd Nov 2019, 7:32 AM edit delete reply
I'm still sour about the show not making her an Archmage or Head Librarian or something like that. Going straight from "resident village nerd/wizard" to "God-Empress" was a bit much.
Guest 2nd Nov 2019, 7:50 AM edit delete reply
Eh, I have some minor disagreements with this.

Practically speaking, "you're gonna inherit a kingdom soon" has a longer narrative lifespan than "you are the best at your job and this is the most you'll ever get out of life."

And, her becoming the next princess was heavily foreshadowed back since the first episode. Being personally groomed by the current regent? Check. Is named for the overlap between the other princesses' naming theme? Check! Used the same magical artifact that the princesses previously did to protect the kingdom? Another check!

That poor pony was always gonna wake up one day with a crown on her head, and no idea how it got there.

But I do agree that Twilight ending as an archmage or bigger librarian would've been more concise. But then, we'd be talking about how she missed the chance to be a princess, just off all the buildup lurking in the background.
Derpmind 3rd Nov 2019, 5:06 AM edit delete reply
I didn't mean as an ending to Twilight's progression. I meant I wish she had more steps between where she started and Friendship Princess Forever.
MechaDitz 3rd Nov 2019, 9:45 PM edit delete reply
Yeah, I had no problem with having her develop past the initial status quo, but it did feel rushed to me since honestly 'randomly knows the head honcho' is a pretty common cartoon trope, so I didn't really see it as foreshadowing. Honestly I feel like the first time we get the idea that Celestia has more plans for Twilight than heroism is the Crystal Empire. Granted, it takes like what, only 4 seasons for the mane 6 to become probably one of the most politically and socially connected group in Equestria, to the point I am still legitimately confused why Spoiled Rich would openly come down on the CMC despite trying to climb the social ladder.
Guest 4th Nov 2019, 2:21 PM edit delete reply
Eh, fair. I just attributed it to the series only being planned up to season 3 by that point.
Guest 5th Nov 2019, 1:35 AM edit delete reply
Keep in mind that becoming an alicorn isn't something Celestia does to Twilight, it's Twilight who ascend herself by completing in two days a spell that was left unsolved for centuries, and then it's clear until she handle Tirek that she's not ready for it on an emotional level at least.

So arguably the show does indicates she powered through a few steps by getting directly to Princesshood, but it's not a bad thing as there's consequences for it.
Guest 2nd Nov 2019, 7:39 AM edit delete reply
We never see the gameplayers and, even when out of character, they never talk about themselves. (No one even knows what Applejack's "real" accent is.)

So I think this is the first time we've learned for sure than Twilight's player is female. Everyone else is still up in the air.
Composer99 2nd Nov 2019, 8:22 AM edit delete reply
Heh, funny enough, I don't think we do. Nowhere in-comic on this page does Twilight or the DM say that Twilight is a sister - only that Twilight's brother is planning on joining for a session.

(I mean, I think we can take it as read that Twilight's player is a woman, but it's not actually spelled out on this page.)
BackSet 2nd Nov 2019, 8:44 AM edit delete reply
I always kind of assumed that everybody but the DM was a woman.
Borg 2nd Nov 2019, 8:50 AM edit delete reply
We know that Twilight's player has a brother, and that brother has a fiancee who is (assuming the DM is properly using French) is female, but that doesn't prove anything about Twilight's player's gender.
Chakat Firepaw 4th Nov 2019, 9:50 AM edit delete reply
English actually has fiance(e) as one of the few non-job¹ words with gendered forms. Blond(e) is another example.

1: As opposed to pairs like steward(ess) or drum major(ette).
Newbiespud 2nd Nov 2019, 9:20 AM edit delete reply
The Mane Six players have been regularly referred to with the "she" pronoun.
Guest 2nd Nov 2019, 11:32 AM edit delete reply
True. I made an unwarranted assumption.
Subconsciously influenced by the show?
Which raises another question. Does MlP:FiM exist in the player's world? I suspect not. We readers know things they don't.

Anyway, it's nice to know my stab-in-the-dark was correct. Can someone give the number of a strip with the "she" pronoun used OOC.
Newbiespud 2nd Nov 2019, 12:11 PM edit delete reply
The central conceit of the Campaign Comic, a la DM of the Rings and Darths and Droids, is that the original property does not exist in the players' world and it's an original setting invented by the DM.

It's interesting that it's been long enough since Campaign Comics were a popular genre that it needs to start being said explicitly.
Somehow Dimir's #2 6th Nov 2019, 7:46 PM edit delete reply
Lord of the Rings not existing but being the homebrewed D&D setting of some random DM is an interesting paradox.
keybounce 9th Nov 2019, 10:51 PM edit delete reply
Lord of the rings not existing but being the setting of a D&D campaign is, as I understand it, the *FIRST* of these campaign comics.

DM of the Rings.
Digo Dragon 2nd Nov 2019, 8:21 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
My family and I don't have great communication either. It's not unheard of for me to learn someone in the family died until 2-3 months later.

The worst incident was an uncle who committed suicide and I didn't know until I brought up their birthday months later.
Wulfraed 2nd Nov 2019, 9:32 AM edit delete reply
Canterlot Wedding...

That leads to the question: will the fiancee be playing both Cadance AND Chrysalis...
BackSet 2nd Nov 2019, 10:08 AM edit delete reply
What if it's actually reversed and The fiancé plays Shining Armor and the brother plays Cadence and/or Chrysalis.
THE OTHER GUEST 2nd Nov 2019, 11:09 AM edit delete reply
Hasn't checked facebook in Months...?

I can sort of relate that, but change "Months" to "Never had a facebook page to begin with". No twitter, either, but that's neither here nor there.

The only time it really became an "Issue" was the one time I almost missed a family Holiday get-together, and the only announcement they'd made was on someone's facebook page. They were surprised I hadn't heard about it when someone finally decided to, you know, actually give me a phone call the morning of. You know, actual communication...

Since then they've been a lot better about using multiple channels to keep everyone in the loop for important things.
Philadelphus 2nd Nov 2019, 7:25 PM edit delete reply
Yeah, you find out who your real friends are when they remember you exist and take a few minutes to send an alternative message about something important.
BackSet 2nd Nov 2019, 1:57 PM edit delete reply
On a different note from everything, I may be wrong but shouldn't the GM's text say "I'm the first you've heard about this from, aren't I." And not "I'm the first you've heard about this, aren't I."
Platonix 2nd Nov 2019, 6:48 PM edit delete reply
It is technically grammatically incorrect; the word that's really being left out is likely "I'm the first TIME you've heard about this" (as in "Me saying that is the first time etc"), and people aren't times so yeah...but incorrect though it may be, it's still semi-common usage and completely believable that the DM would say that.
Lethologica 3rd Nov 2019, 2:11 PM edit delete reply
There are plenty of variations. "This is the first you've heard about her, isn't it." "I'm the first you've heard from about this, aren't I." Personally, I think the comic as written is an acceptable dialogic departure from strict grammatical correctness, but it's a matter of taste.
Truthkeeper 2nd Nov 2019, 3:56 PM edit delete reply
If you think about it, Royal Wizard is actually a technically accurate way to refer to Princess Twilight.
zimmerwald1915 2nd Nov 2019, 9:16 PM edit delete reply
If anything, the semantic meaning of "royal wizard" is far closer to "wizard who is royal" than "wizard who works for royalty."
Somehow Dimir's #2 3rd Nov 2019, 10:31 PM edit delete reply
We had our finale session of our Ravnica campaign today, and long story short, I managed to get Lazav as the new guildpact, erased Ravnica's collective memory of our existence, and became his right hand man. Meanwhile, the rest of the party kinda mostly just promoted a few ranks.

Anyone else have an experience where one player ended up far surpassing the others, whether intentionally or not?
Guest 5th Nov 2019, 1:46 AM edit delete reply
I trust Spud with doing something interesting, but my suspension of disbelief is REALLY challengef by the "well sure I'll agree without needing convincing to play RPGs with someone I don't want to communicate with, and also I'm fine with them playing my in-game brother too" premise.

Especially right after the last part of the campaign was frustrating.

If the DM and Twilight spent like a page establishing conditions/boundaries after DM told her he thought about inviting her brother, I could believe it. Here it's basically Twilight agreeing to have a bad time.
Rakaydos 5th Nov 2019, 2:07 AM edit delete reply
She never said she was estranged from her brother. Only that she didnt use Facebook. There's plenty of reasons to #deletefacebook these days.

I'm not on facebook anymore, and when my dad came to visit I took him to board game night. No big deal.
keybounce 9th Nov 2019, 11:31 PM edit delete reply
Interestingly, back in 518, we see that the GM and Rarity DID plan something together.

So the GM does have some experience in working with these players to make a better story for them.
RuBoo 27th Nov 2019, 9:57 PM edit delete reply
"...Princess. Of Friendship. And maybe Equestria."