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3rd Oct 2020, 6:00 AM in A Canterlot Wedding, Part 1
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Newbiespud 3rd Oct 2020, 6:00 AM edit delete
This is a tactic that probably only works in D&D, where you yourself are a force to be reckoned with and you're backed up by party members that, even if they don't know exactly what happened to you, are capable enough of laying a smackdown on top suspects.

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Jannard 3rd Oct 2020, 6:17 AM edit delete reply
And thank goodness it works often, proof enough that not every game is that blasted toxic "DM vs Players" stereotype.
Well, technically it also works in literature, but there the DM and the players are all usually the same person.
Guest 3rd Oct 2020, 8:29 AM edit delete reply
I mean, that doesn't necessarily mean there's no "DM vs Players" mentality in literature... Though it does have more meaning than a normal DMvP mentality...
Winged Cat 3rd Oct 2020, 10:32 AM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
In many a case, none can be so merciless and cruel to oneself as oneself.
Jannard 3rd Oct 2020, 7:53 PM edit delete reply
That's... quite a tangent.
Charlie Gordon 3rd Oct 2020, 8:25 AM edit delete reply
It's also considered a viable tactic in Feng Shui, given how much bad guys enjoy monologuing.
Robin Bobcat 3rd Oct 2020, 12:41 PM edit delete reply
I still remember that moment in the show... Okay, maybe Twilight IS just overreacting, and things are just being HOLY CRAP. 'To Be Continued' CRAPCRAPCRAP
Guest 3rd Oct 2020, 11:41 PM edit delete reply
Could you imagine if those had been aired a week apart instead of as a two-parter? That was such an epic cliffhanger.
Truthkeeper 3rd Oct 2020, 2:15 PM edit delete reply
Ideally, the rest of the party would be using this time to thoroughly beat into everybody's heads what's going on.

I mean, they're probably not even trying to do that, but they should be.
Why? 4th Oct 2020, 5:52 AM edit delete reply
So... Why could a villain care about what Twilight want? If the villain was intelligent, could continue the charade and act as if knew nothing, even if the 'bluff' of fake tears worked
loyalChaos 4th Oct 2020, 8:17 AM edit delete reply
For one, its a literature trope. For two, that's boring. For three, sacrifices in a story should be rewarded, like sacrificing the squishy wizard to the evil mind control bug in order to gain intel and advance the plot.
darkgloomie 4th Oct 2020, 9:52 AM edit delete reply
Removibg Twilight from the equation makes it so she can't try and mess up whatever plan fake Cadence has, so at least that much is a sensible precaution to take.

As for why would she actually do as Twi asked... well, we don't know she will. But at the same time the fake Cadence may just want to gloat about her evil plan to a captive audience. Since she's impersonating someone she likely doesn't get the chance to.
You ever play D&D and/or did you read the Return of Harmony arc? A villain who just wins and doesn't give anyone a chance or keeps things really boring even after one of the PCs made a large sacrifice and called things out not only is just generally boring from a narrative purpose but also is a slap in the face of the PCs roleplaying their hearts out.
RuneKnight3 4th Oct 2020, 10:09 AM edit delete reply
The villain not falling for the schmuck bait isn't always DM vs. Players behavior. Sometimes it's interesting to (say it with me now) subvert expectations. When you want to evidence how dangerous and intelligent a villain is having them act genre saavy is a great way to do it. Let the hero make their grand sacrifices sure, but have a Xanatos gambit on speed dial. While all groups and players are different, some groups either used to hand holding by DM's or looking for something new appreciate greater challenge - see the Discord Arc - unfortunately, and this is no criticism of our storyteller here, the story is often made in how bad DM's can be in a number of ways, not how DM's can be differently awesome in different ways.
Bumblebee 4th Oct 2020, 6:49 PM edit delete reply
I like how within the context of the comic, it kind of looks like Cadence is proud of Twilight for coming up with this gambit.