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3rd Dec 2020, 6:00 AM in A Canterlot Wedding, Part 2
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Newbiespud 3rd Dec 2020, 6:00 AM edit delete
Sometimes when I'm rewatching an episode for screencaps, a shot or an expression I didn't catch before is funny enough on its own that it deserves its own brief tangent. In this case, panel 5.

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Balrighty 3rd Dec 2020, 6:59 AM edit delete reply

Is the "Smooth! Real smooth!" line in panel 6 supposed to be coming from Twilight? It's in her colors, but it doesn't strike me as something she'd say at this point, nor is the dialogue arrow pointing in her general direction, so I can't tell.
Shinku 3rd Dec 2020, 7:28 AM edit delete reply
Actually it is, but the perspective has changed. We're looking at Faux-Cadance from Shiningward in panel 6.
Newbiespud 3rd Dec 2020, 10:45 AM edit delete reply
I suppose the change in camera angle ended up a little hard to read with the panel crop.
Eroraf 3rd Dec 2020, 11:47 AM edit delete reply
You know, for the queen-mother of a race of shapeshifting emotivores, Chrysalis is a shockingly bad actor.
MiqoRems 3rd Dec 2020, 12:13 PM edit delete reply
To be fair, it's her wedding day. She's got to have a pretty bad case of nerves.
aylatrigger 3rd Dec 2020, 1:34 PM edit delete reply
It's the problem when you think the day is going to be Just Perfect. Anything goes wrong and you are completely thrown off your game.
Digo Dragon 4th Dec 2020, 9:43 PM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Especially after you thought your problem was sufficiently banished to the forgotten caves underneath the castle.
albedoequals1 3rd Dec 2020, 8:21 PM Bad actor acting badly edit delete reply
She's not *that* bad at acting. It's a subtle hint scaled up for the benefit of people in the back row. Nightmare Moon and Discord both went for full-chested maniacal laughter, background lightning and all, so this performance is pretty subdued in comparison :p
HopeFox 3rd Dec 2020, 10:17 PM edit delete reply
It's the curse of being a subtle villain on a children's show. The target audience needs to be able to figure out she's lying. Look how bad the Mane 6 are whenever they try to pull one over somepony else.
TyrantViewer 5th Dec 2020, 3:54 PM edit delete reply
That reminds me of so many crossover fics where Equestria is treated as being just so nice that their inhabitants are left baffled when the crossover characters play things more seriously- seeing through villians that are treated as laughable and such. But in universe it could be that between changelings being completely unknown before these events and how oblivious/trusting ponies can be, that changelings just don't need to be master actors- heck since they are so unknown I bet they use other mental magics to help smooth things over, like Chrysalis does with Shining, after all unless they basically never use their cocoon capture pod things (ie when chrysalis captures Celestia) they would have to have some way of making the victims of that forget or sleep through it.

My guess is that they use shapeshifting to gather intel, capture and replace someone long enough to gather a good amount of love, and then use mind magic to slip the original back into place and then leave. Though that does beg the question as to why cadence and twilight were not cocooned- all you would need would be to station changelings in the mines to keep an eye on them- here it makes sense with Chrysalis aranging for the mines to be sealed, but in canon there is no reason not to have cadence better secured.
TyrantViewer 4th Dec 2020, 4:31 AM edit delete reply
It actually makes some sense when you consider that between her hypnotizing skill and the fact that she is the queen means she probably hasn't had to go out and impersonate people much- she had people for that, or hypnosis to help when she did it her self. Plus overall the changelings aren't actually good at impersonating people other than physically, in the show they try a body snatcher like replacement twice, in this scheme, with Crysalis relying on the fact that everypony except twilight is basically shruging and thinking its just nerves despite the city being on guard for an attack of some kind (did the changelings screw up off screen or did Chrysalis let something slip on purpose?) and a later episode where the impersonation is extremely obvious when the mane six are very obviously uncaring about a friendship issue when they are famous for being good at that stuff.

I don't really think the changlings as a whole are good actors, which makes sense when they are emotivores that dont' feel the relative emotions themselves- they just don't get a bunch of the relative emotions because to them they are just food. Their modus operandi seems to be- impersonate someone loved to gather that love, and then sneak off with the love before discovery- like bees gathering honey.

Chrysalis' plan her just seems to be replacing a very well loved pony for a long term plan, that just so happens to set her up to have tons of followers and subjects, who she can replace with her actual subjects. Except then it seems the invasion was the plan and I don't know how she was expecting to gather love when everything is disrupted because she imprisoned the people who move the sun and moon and everyone is afraid. It would be a decent idea if she ate fear, but she doesn't.
Balrighty 5th Dec 2020, 7:42 AM edit delete reply
I think Chrysalis let something slip behind the scenes to put the city guard on alert on purpose, so that they would fatigue themselves expecting an attack. After all, all respect to Mad-Eye Moody, but "constant vigilance" is exhausting, and she could only drain Shining Armor, so she needed something else to hamper the rest of the guard. So it becomes a question of her estimate of whether a fresh but unprepared city guard was easier or more difficult to deal with than a fatigued but alert guard.
TyrantViewer 5th Dec 2020, 3:36 PM edit delete reply
If it was on purpose that part of the plan is genius, it gets all of Equestria's joke of a military in one place, with the main defenses controled by the one pony she has completely in her thrall- My guess is that with the real cadence hidden, she would have used shining to open the barrier just enough to let her army sneak through in bits and replace people- and heck use her "honeymoon" to go around replacing important ponies to basically take over without anyone noticing.

Its just that if she planed to replace the other Princesses that would be a loosing plan since noone could take over moving the sun and moon, so realistically she should have run when found out rather than capture then even if she was actually capable of that- also other than satisfying her ego I am not sure what secretly taking over equestria does for a species of love eaters, that wouldn't be better served by a much more low key plan.

Out of all of the series' big villians Chrysalis has the most to lose and least to gain from her plans, since she already has a whole kingdom of loyal followers, who are all shapeshifters and magic users, and a home base that is essentially unasailable due to only her and her follower's magic working in a wide area around it. She gets points for being the only villian to come back for a second round and almost succeeding, but all the other villains would have killed to have the advantages she has, and seems to not use to their fullest.
BackSet 4th Dec 2020, 8:07 AM edit delete reply
She likes being overly dramatic and Cadence is way too low-key for her.