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Newbiespud 30th Sep 2021, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
My Twilight just naturally becomes less respectful and more sassy when talking to Celestia. I'm not sure why and I'm not sure how to feel about it.

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FanOfMostEverything 30th Sep 2021, 6:01 AM edit delete reply
I'm right there with you. Past a certain point in the timeline, there's an incredible temptation to have Twilight knock her mentor down a peg. I blame Luna egging her on.
Prairie Son 30th Sep 2021, 8:28 AM edit delete reply
I'm pretty much always down for taking a mentor figure off of a pedestal. In part because people (or ponies) on pedestals tend to become rather one dimensional and boring. Luna's pretty much the most interesting of all the non-main cast because she exists in four dimensions due to how the whole Nightmare Moon thing keeps her past influencing her present. I actually wrote up a thing on Celestia that if I had any art skills at all I'd submit to Spud's guest strip section. Short version is that the transition from Action Hero-->banished her sister-->current ruler of Equestria is covering up some very rough years and the 'Golden Age' of the show is actually a relatively recent development. Which I guess would also help explain how the horseshoes came off so readily for the new series.
Jannard 30th Sep 2021, 6:30 AM edit delete reply
"Heavy plane", nice. Also, yes, it's a very peculiar habit of this version of Twilight. The whole "trying to poke logic holes at my trusted mentor's explanations" does have the benefit of making her act as an audience surrogate for everyone who MAY raise those questions when reading this, though.

Kinda unrelated, I've got a prompt for you readers: what are you more invested on, the "player group and player group dynamics" aspect of the comic? Or the interaction with the game's (and by extension the show's) narrative?
Guest 30th Sep 2021, 6:31 AM edit delete reply
"...will fundamentally alter Equestria's future."

For seven years or so.
Then, in some indeterminate future time, Equestria will have fractured and the three pony tribes will have gone their separate ways.
Guest 30th Sep 2021, 7:26 AM edit delete reply
Keep in mind that we're still in the 2-week no-spoiler period.
Emtu 30th Sep 2021, 7:43 AM edit delete reply
Nothing in that post wasn't obvious from the trailer.
Hankroyd 30th Sep 2021, 9:32 AM edit delete reply
I guess it's a stupid question but ... what are you talking about ?
Prairie Son 30th Sep 2021, 9:49 AM edit delete reply
The next series (G5) is set in the same setting as G4, but the promo material makes it pretty clear the setting went completely to hell so fast the main character still has merch with the cutie marks of the Mane Six.
Wulfraed 30th Sep 2021, 1:24 PM edit delete reply
Though it was enough time that they've gone from dragon-fire "email" through semaphore/heliograph, telegraph, land-line telephone, and into cell-phones (which implies they've developed semi-conductor technology, and some form of computer).
albedoequals1 30th Sep 2021, 11:53 PM edit delete reply
albedoequals1
Semi-conductors were already present in G4, though not utilized much. There were several headset microphones, which can't really get small enough without printed circuit boards
Guest 30th Sep 2021, 8:49 PM edit delete reply
The actual movie gives the impression that a lot of time has passed, to the point that that "merch" is more like archaeological reconstructions rather than contemporary merchandise.
zimmerwald1915 30th Sep 2021, 7:30 AM edit delete reply
State collapse is a change, not all changes are positive.
Emtu 30th Sep 2021, 7:41 AM edit delete reply
Again, not having learned from historical events IN THE SLIGHTEST.

That's the thing that annoyed me the most about the movie, they build the whole story around racism.
Borg 30th Sep 2021, 8:34 AM edit delete reply
Sometimes things fall apart. If they're worth remembering fondly they often get rebuilt eventually, but sometimes unseen weaknesses or external factors cause things to fall apart.

And it's not like Equestria didn't have a precedent of being largely segregated and surprisingly close to dividing along racial lines even when things seem fine. I hope Twilight tried to actively address that during her rule, but that sort of problem is not quick to fix.
zimmerwald1915 1st Oct 2021, 9:38 AM edit delete reply
If they're worth remembering fondly they don't fall apart, and if they fall apart they're not worth remembering fondly. See, e.g., the USSR.
albedoequals1 1st Oct 2021, 12:04 AM edit delete reply
albedoequals1
Speaking of historical events, we know from the first Hearthwarming episode that ponies' racial magic works just fine without friendship. There was magic all over the place back when the tribes were literally at war with each other and their hatred was fueling an ice age. Friendship may be one source of magic, but it is not the only one.
Digo 30th Sep 2021, 6:35 AM edit delete reply
I read that very first line and internally added "earth" in front of ponies, and uncomfortable chuckling happened thinking about the show. ^^

I think sass just naturally comes with familiarity with others, even if they are of a higher authority.
Guest 30th Sep 2021, 8:20 AM edit delete reply
Y'know, the G5 discussion got me thinking if the new movie is another DM-less oneshot session with one of the players being the DM for the other five. No idea who is who, but I certainly imagine the players discuss the whole race separation and magic going away just as intensely as the fandom.
Digo 30th Sep 2021, 9:24 AM edit delete reply
Kinda related--i was in a discussion about magic going away, but for the timeline between the RPGs Earth Dawn and Shadowrun.
Winged Cat 30th Sep 2021, 9:53 PM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
I'd favor Rainbow Dash's player - a lot more self-aware, and deliberately playing her temporarily-GMPC as not so aware - as the GM for that, given the increased amount of adventure and worldbuilding.
Keybounce 4th Oct 2021, 2:12 PM edit delete reply
Ohh! Applejack runs the new oneshot, because she's the one that doesn't really show up.
Rainbow Dash runs the atheletic flying pony
Fluttershy runs the sheriff that animals love
Twilight runs the optimistic hero
Pinkie play the unicorn hero
And Rarity plays the pompous singing star.
Space Jawa 30th Sep 2021, 2:38 PM edit delete reply
Always love the little off-screen comments you have Rainbow Dash drop in.
Gray 30th Sep 2021, 9:59 PM edit delete reply
I dunno, I think it fits a roleplayer perfectly well. They don't really talk to Celestia much, so it makes sense there's less of a rapport... I actually kind of like that Twilight keeps her sarcastic edge in this story, a little bit. Maybe Celestia doesn't translate as well to a roleplaying game...?
Kittoradra 30th Sep 2021, 10:50 PM edit delete reply
Celestia is "important quest-giver" and "sets the story in motion for one character". As part of the Twilight character backstory, there was awe and reverence. The player was also new, I believe? So, she's just gotten more accustomed to the game, the setting, and the group. A group that has sass and strong-willed attitude in most of the players and characters. It was bound to rub off in one way or another, especially with the "guiding mentor figure" having been ambiguous in presence and impact. The most recent interaction before this was "ominous at best" with a tone of "if you succeed, you'll have done something I either never tried or failed to do". Elevation from "student" to "technically a peer" (even before the change about to happen) can bring a shift in tone... especially if the player has started getting tired of cryptic discussion
Arazyr 1st Oct 2021, 5:33 AM edit delete reply
I like how she gets more "sassy" with Celestia. It clearly shows that their relationship is strong, and close, because Twilight feels safe goofing around with her. (At least, that's my take on it. 8^)