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13th Sep 2011, 6:00 AM in Friendship is Magic, Part 1
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Barbarian Rage
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Newbiespud 13th Sep 2011, 6:00 AM edit delete
Poor Twilight. She had to put up with a LOT on her first visit to Ponyville, and not just the (heaven forbid) friendship.

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Kd7sov 13th Sep 2011, 6:51 AM edit delete reply
...Wow. Good thing 4th edition (that's basically what this is, right?) ramped up hit points. In 3.5, assuming 18 CON and no weird feats or such, a level 1 wizard such as Twilight might have as many as 8 hp.

I have no idea how much damage a 3.5 Rainbow might do. I'm sure there are (were?) rules for body-slams, even if only in third-party books, but I'm not all that up on the intricacies of combat rules.
Guest 13th Sep 2011, 7:26 AM edit delete reply
You got rules for Bull Rush in 4th and Pathfinder to my knowledge (Pathfinder being my point of reference for 3rd ed thingeys). Regardless, you're pretty right about her squish levels. Poor Twilight :P
Dalton 13th Sep 2011, 7:41 AM edit delete reply
I think both 4E and Pathfinder ramped up hitpoints. For Pathfinder, assuming 18 Con and no weird feats and such, a 1st level wizard would *always* have 10 hp, to my knowledge. (still kinda squishy.) What's the max in 4E with 18 Con?
kriss1989 27th Sep 2011, 12:07 PM kriss1989 edit delete reply
A wizards HP at level 1 in 4E is 10+CON score. So at 18 con a wizard would have 28 HP.
Anonymous 1st Jan 2015, 1:09 PM edit delete reply
18 Constitution? What kind of wizard are you building?
Derpmind 13th Sep 2011, 7:52 AM edit delete reply
The cast page has stats and stuff. Twilight has 20 hp, so she's not dead. Not sure about the math though, could she have been killed?
MirrorImage 13th Sep 2011, 8:08 AM edit delete reply
4e doesn't have saving throws versus massive damage. A PC falls unconscious at 0hp and is dead dead at negative bloodied (1/2 max HP). So no, Twilight was never in danger assuming that all Dash did was a Melee Basic/Charge. With Dash's stats and assuming hooves don't count as anything more than Unarmed, Charge is +4 Attack vs AC (+3 for STR+1/2 level, +1 for Charge) with damage of 1d4+3 (Unarmed: 1d4, +3 for STR Mod). 20HP is standard for most 4e Wizards at first level, assuming they're not playing the INT/CON build.

Though on another note, Twilight looks a little too happy in the third panel... Am I the only one who sees an unusually joyful expression for someone who just got tackled by a Pegasus?
blackseven 14th Sep 2011, 2:30 AM edit delete reply
Twilight looks "happy" in the panel she is being tackled because she was happy right before she got tackled. Dash hit her so fast that her facial expression didn't have time to change.
Anon 13th Sep 2011, 9:16 AM edit delete reply
Just did some cross-referencing with the 3.5 SRD. Since pegasi mature at the same rate as horses, and full grown they to equal amounts with a hoof attack, it can be assumed that a pegasus pony does the same amount of damage as a regular pony. So Rainbow Dash did 1d3 + STR Modifier + 2 (for charging) damage. A Wizard has 4 + CON Modifier HP at level one, with an additional 3 if she has a toad familiar or the Toughness Feat (+6 if she has both). Twilight doesn't have a toad familiar, and doesn't have a CON modifier. This gives her 4 hitpoints if she hasn't taken Toughness. She probably has, seeing as otherwise she'd be dying.

Twilight's Hitpoints: 7
Rainbow's Damage Roll: 1d3 + 3(STR) + 2(Charge)

Rainbow Dash can roll a 0 on 1d3

Of course, that's all in 3.5 rules. I never really got the hang of 4.0
Guest 13th Sep 2011, 10:57 AM edit delete reply
Last I checked, charging in 3.5 only gives you a +2 to your attack roll and attempts to bull rush or overrun, not to your damage.
Colin 12th Oct 2013, 11:50 PM 3.5 vs 4th edit delete reply
Barring feats or other enhancements to charge, that is so. Actually, the powercharged HP of 4th Ed makes it my preferred system for pony combat, given the abuse they can shrug off on the show - only time I ever deign to use it in lieu of my beloved 3.5, to which I've converted 27 characters from the Dragon Age games, the Mane 6 plus Vinyl Scratch & Octavia, and others as gestalt characters. :D
...I maay be a bit of an altaholic. SO MANY CHARACTERS
Erin Palette 13th Sep 2011, 9:41 AM edit delete reply
Unless Dashie has the appropriate feats, unarmed damage is typically subdual (nonlethal).
AshesOfSaturn 13th Sep 2011, 5:02 PM edit delete reply
Except this is explicitly 4th edition if you look at the character sheets, which doesn't differentiate between subdual and real damage.
BryanD 13th Sep 2011, 8:36 PM edit delete reply
Fortunately 4th edition has a substitute for nonlethal damage; a character can deliberately "pull" what would be a lethal blow and make it nonlethal instead, knocking the target out instead of putting it below 0 hit points and forcing death saves. No penalties on the to-hit roll. I've found that this makes it actually reasonable for PCs to be merciful from time to time... depending on the players, of course. :)
MirrorImage 13th Sep 2011, 10:05 AM edit delete reply
Suppose I would if at the time I knew the Pegasus in question and wasn't just tossed into a mud pit the GM decided just now appeared. For getting tackled into a mud pit by an absolute stranger, anyways, Twilight is... was unusually happy.

Ah... Thursday is going to be interesting...
Newbiespud 13th Sep 2011, 6:34 PM edit delete reply
Rules lawyers. Rules lawyers everywhere.
TheDoomBug 13th Sep 2011, 9:31 PM edit delete reply
If it makes you feel better, I have no clue what half of them are talking about.
Super_Big_Mac 30th Jun 2013, 4:19 PM Razzafrazz edit delete reply
I played DnD once, back when I was about 9. That was 10 years ago, and I only knew a little of the rules. I honestly want to do some DnD again, but all of this made no sense to me whatsoever, so... ;~;
Limey Lassen 14th Sep 2011, 12:17 AM edit delete reply
Hope she savors that victory, cuz Fluttershy is gonna get all the XP later on.
Flatline 14th Sep 2011, 2:44 AM edit delete reply
"It's been almost an hour"? Man, RD is used to REALLY fast-paced gaming.
Cloudy Skies 14th Sep 2011, 4:11 AM This is pretty much the best thing ever. edit delete reply
I am going to have to buy a new f5 button just for update days.
SaintAbsol 14th Sep 2011, 5:08 AM edit delete reply
*Insert DnD rule ramble here*

Don't know why; but for some reason, I'm equally as excited about the first damage of the campaign. It's probably because that's EXACTLY the type of thing I'd be giddy about IRL. Assuming I ever got the chance to play DnD; not very likely...

Wow, pity party in the post there, sorry about that.
Super_Big_Mac 30th Jun 2013, 4:22 PM Razzafrazz edit delete reply
Hey, if you ever want to play DnD with me (mind that you'd have to walk me through the rules in the beginning...), I'd be happy to do so! (I'll also need to get a dice set. But hey, Google has their vid chat thing, and so does Skype...)
Colin 12th Oct 2013, 11:51 PM Gaming Groups edit delete reply
Check out, guys. Problem solved.
Blaizokaran 15th Sep 2011, 10:16 AM edit delete reply
...Damn. Epic entrance.
Limpurtikles 24th Sep 2011, 1:09 AM edit delete reply
I friggin' love these comment section X3
Alcarinqua 24th Sep 2011, 10:02 AM edit delete reply
Wait... Rainbow Dash is CHAOTIC Evil?! Her Element is Loyalty! How can she be Chaotic?!
Fred 27th Sep 2011, 12:39 PM edit delete reply
Well, there are three ways to think about this. The first is that loyalty doesn't equal being Lawful; indeed, an act like (say) busting your friends out of jail is likely to be a chaotic act, but it's definitely loyal--especially if, like many PCs, they're guilty as sin of whatever crimes they were accused of in the first place.

The second is that, canonically, Rainbow Dash's representation of loyalty has been... iffy from time to time. Indeed, she very nearly FAILS her first test of loyalty DESPITE it being an obvious test.

And the third? 'Chaotic Evil' has often been used to mean 'I can do whatever the heck I want with no alignment consequences'... which suits the personality of Rainbow Dash's player. >:D
Lugbzurg 25th Sep 2011, 8:24 PM edit delete reply
Ok, I have to say, "That was a great way to introduce Rainbow Dash!"
Bronymous 26th Sep 2011, 6:02 PM edit delete reply
In my experience, one of the PC's being introduce by attacking another is never a good start to a campaign. Then again, in my experience, its happened on two different occasions, in two different campaigns, with two different DMs. So I could be wrong.
Ewyn 27th Sep 2011, 4:24 AM edit delete reply
DM panics "Who?! Wit what?!" xDDD

That made me laguh loud XD
Honest Raven 12th Feb 2013, 8:05 AM Laughed so hard edit delete reply
I don't know exactly why, but I laughed so debilitatingly hard at this comic. I havn't laughed that hard in a good long while, and I don't even play DnD.... yet anyway... Looking to fix that...
Pastshelfdate 6th Aug 2013, 3:24 PM "Sweet, sweet combat" - my friend D edit delete reply
When I saw this, I thought of a friend with whom I've gamed for over a decade. He always feels let-down when a RPG session is devoid of combat.

So I showed him this cartoon, and he laughed. Good job. :)
Constant 14th Jan 2014, 12:56 AM edit delete reply
Pretty much my first move when my friends tried to explain 'that table game' to me so many years ago: attack random peoples! Never got into it due to the complexity though >.>
Clara Collins 21st May 2018, 3:42 AM edit delete reply
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