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14th May 2022, 6:00 AM in What About Discord?
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The Ratio of Pie
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Newbiespud 14th May 2022, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Based on a true story.

...The true story is that I've had too much pizza recently at time of writing.

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34 Comments:

Toric 14th May 2022, 6:14 AM edit delete reply
Alright, I will correct a comment I left on the last page. Now it DOES feel a little like they are trying to ANTI joke Discord. That said, I still think they are trying to make an effort to express appreciation for the unique encounters he is providing.

Also, I am familiar with the dreaded pizza calculus and the many factors therein. Pinkie's respect for the subject speaks of wisdom and the tragedy of experience.
CyanWhisp 14th May 2022, 6:16 AM edit delete reply
I love how, even in this alternate universe, Fluttershy is still the one who understands Discord the best.
CosmicPlatonix 14th May 2022, 6:33 AM edit delete reply
Noooooo don't break my fragile heart by telling me there's such a thing as too much pizza
Shinku 14th May 2022, 7:24 AM edit delete reply
It isn't that there's too much pizza. They've been ordering a lot, so now there's a coupon to use. Fluttershy gets to choose the toppings for it, assumedly.
Borg 14th May 2022, 8:46 AM edit delete reply
They don't want to do that calculus either. Fluttershy gets to use the coupon for a pizza on her own time.
CosmicPlatonix 14th May 2022, 2:18 PM edit delete reply
In any case, I was actually referring to the Author's Note...
Peliaos 14th May 2022, 11:16 PM edit delete reply
As somebody who works in the pizza industry, and gets a free custom made junior sized pizza every shift regardless how long it is, there's such a thing as too much pizza. That free junior stopped being a "fun" thing a long time ago, and became more along the lines of "well, that's one less meal I have to budget for".
Azhrei Vep 17th May 2022, 4:39 AM edit delete reply
As someone who once worked at a Pizza Buffet, I understand. Smartest thing those people ever did was tell everyone that as long as we got our work done, we could eat as much as we wanted on shift, and take anything left over home at the end of the night.

Every new employee loved that for about two weeks. And then they never laid a hand on the pizza again. It was nearly a year after I quit before I was willing to eat any for any reason.
Guest 14th May 2022, 7:20 AM edit delete reply
"Woohoo!" is out of character.
Fluttershy should say "YAH!"
Guest 14th May 2022, 7:23 AM edit delete reply
My mistake. She said that earlier.
Keta 14th May 2022, 8:42 AM edit delete reply
It's actually perfectly in character, in case you are missing a mental picture, allow me to provide you with one :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3040vEx4atA
Digo 14th May 2022, 7:24 AM edit delete reply
My brother programmed an app once that calculates the amount each person chips in for pizza based on participants, total spent, and how many slices each person eats. That was peak gaming I think? Well it was a long time ago with my original group and that app was good. Sadly lost it when my computer crashed back in '12.
Guest 14th May 2022, 10:02 AM edit delete reply
Nothing that can't be fixed with some Excelbow grease (or Google Sheets, if you don't want to worry about the PC taking it all out twice over when it meets its maker)
Digo 14th May 2022, 2:12 PM edit delete reply
Yeah I could do a spreadsheet, though this current group all brings their own food so we never worry about splitting a check.
DanielLC 14th May 2022, 7:51 PM edit delete reply
That basically just means you're dividing the price of a pizza by the number of slices to get the price per slice, and then you charge them for each slice they eat. The only difficulty is rounding errors if you don't want something to happen like the pizza gets one cent more expensive, and somehow someone ends up paying less. It's impossible because of the apportionment paradox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apportionment_paradox
Toric 15th May 2022, 4:17 PM edit delete reply
There's also the social calculations to consider. Do different toppings mean people will eat a different number of slices or pizzas? Will someone abstain entirely? Did someone have a big lunch and doesn't want as much? Starving and ears more than usual? Is there ultimately enough for everyone to have all they want, or must they limit themselves?

More sensitively, can everyone afford an equal/fair share? Will the group insist on a contribution, exclude the ones who can't chip in, or politely ignore their lack of contribution?

Every group is different and individual game nights are different, hence the complexity avoided here by Pinkie
Winged Cat 14th May 2022, 8:48 AM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
The percentage? That's easy: 20%. Add up what the 6 would pay, divide by 5, and there you go. (Assuming that the DM and Discord are not affected by this bet, whether they pay their same amount or they don't pay.)
Digo 14th May 2022, 8:54 AM edit delete reply
This assumes everyone eats the same amount of pizza. But in my experience that is rarely the case. The way we did it is calculate the price per slice and go with that.
Stephen Gilberg 14th May 2022, 1:29 PM edit delete reply
Stephen Gilberg
Also, you're assuming the GM doesn't get in on it.
albedoequals1 14th May 2022, 8:58 AM edit delete reply
albedoequals1
From my own experience with a semi-toxic game, making secret bets with other players really kills the drama. Normally that's bad, but when the drama is making people angry at each other, it can help quite a lot
Achtungnight 14th May 2022, 11:41 AM edit delete reply
Can’t help but wonder what Discord likes on pizza.
Achtungnight 14th May 2022, 11:41 AM edit delete reply
Can’t help but wonder what Discord likes on pizza.
pizza 14th May 2022, 12:37 PM edit delete reply
Can't help but wonder what pizza likes on Discord.
MythicFox 14th May 2022, 2:18 PM edit delete reply
Let's take a moment to appreciate some truly-classic Fluttershy.
Roguim 14th May 2022, 2:30 PM edit delete reply
So at least they have hut a little bit of Discord's HP, now see all he will act...
and also share the Pizza's payment is a serious business as any player group know.
Malroth 15th May 2022, 5:11 PM edit delete reply
Malroth
Assuming it dealt hp damage and diddn't act as something like a helm of opposite alignment .
Stormy Tinker 14th May 2022, 6:44 PM edit delete reply
Our local gaming group has one guy who just brings pizza. It's a dollar a slice - sorry, dollar-fifty, prices went up - and since he gets the sodas for free with his order, any pizza bought includes drinks. Any uneaten pizza he and his wife enjoy for the next few days.
Azhrei Vep 14th May 2022, 6:58 PM edit delete reply
Man, everybody seems to overcomplicate this food thing. I much prefer my old group's way of handling it: Everybody feeds themselves. You pay for your own food. If you feel like sharing? That's cool, no complaints here, but nobody expects you to do it or anyone else to chip in for it.
A Hat with a Hat 15th May 2022, 5:04 AM edit delete reply
Alright, this adds a sort of validity to my previous comment.

It seems like they're intentionally attempting to starve DMcord of what he wants: a major outward reaction to his shenanigans, and they're doing that by fixing another previous problem they had: communicating.

Obviously because of the Return of Harmony format they had to be separated somewhat so it made keeping ooc communication difficult, especially since some people had wildly different reactions to his style of DMing as well.

As a form of our own betting pool, I'm still banking on "this session is going to end with a moderately intensive OOC session where our GM stands up to DiscorDM". Regardless this session will not go well.
Otterfriend 15th May 2022, 8:17 AM edit delete reply
Want to wager a pizza coupon on that?
A Quiet Reader 15th May 2022, 10:37 AM edit delete reply
I've seen a few people suggest an ooc confrontation, but I'm not sure what GM would be confronting Discord!DM over? Discord!DM hasn't done anything wrong. The GM invited him, he played the role they planned out, and when GM decided to dial things back in their last session, Discord!DM went along with it no problems. Even now, when his plans have been widely changed w/o prior consultation, he took it gracefully. His play style doesn't mesh well with the group & he is the kind who likes to tease and provoke, but unlike actual Discord, we haven't seen any malice from him.
A Hat with a Hat 15th May 2022, 2:27 PM edit delete reply
Did we read the same story?

I feel like saying "everything went fine" after that is a bit of an overstatement. It went in a wonky enough direction that the group literally did a complete non canon School Raze segment just to get their minds off it.

Both Discord leaving the whole table where the DM tells him to drop the character shtick and Discord gets weirdly quiet suggesting the showboating isn't as much of a "in character" thing as it is just more of his own personality. Plus his last conversation was SUPER AWKWARD with Fluttershy's player right before DiscorDM leaves the table and he acts like nothing about the night went wrong for him.

Maybe some people (including myself) are overselling the point but I can't see how this doesn't somehow end with a more serious discussion. From how he's been characterized to this point OoC DiscorDM doesn't seem to enjoy being outplayed or sidestepped.
A Quiet Reader 17th May 2022, 6:52 PM edit delete reply
I didn't say everything went fine. I said that DiscorDM hadn't done anything wrong, so there's no reason to stand up to him. Everything at their last session didn't go fine, because the players were totally blindsided & his play style didn't mesh well with theirs, but that's not because DiscorDM was rude or malicious, or because he strong-armed anyone into anything. He & the GM planned out a more serious & intensive adventure for the players, and that's what they played out. It failed & made things uncomfortable for everyone (more for the regulars than for him, admittedly), but we can't really say he did wrong just by following the original plan. There were a few awkward moments, particularly between him & Fluttershy's player, and it's VERY clear that he's a bit of a showboater both in and out of character, but nothing so far indicates that he's going to do or say anything to force the spotlight back onto him.

I suspect, given Discord's role in the actual show, that DiscorDM will be integrated into being a regular guest at future sessions, which will probably lead to a few more awkward moments and probably some talks ooc to find a better way to mesh their play styles, but I doubt there will be any need for a full-on confrontation.
rmsgrey 15th May 2022, 7:37 AM edit delete reply
There are a number of possible approaches to splitting the cost of food. At one extreme, one person always gets food for everyone. Another extreme is for everyone to provide their own food. In between, you can take turns being the one person who provides the food for that session, or have everyone chip in an equal share for the session's food, or work out the cost of what each person eats and have everyone pay for themselves on a joint order.

What we used to do when I was at university was for everyone to put some money in to cover what they ordered, then compare the total to the bill plus a reasonable tip and then take small amounts of money back individually until we were at what felt like a reasonable total, but I've also used various other approaches over time.