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Newbiespud 28th Aug 2014, 6:00 AM edit delete
PCs getting pardoned or exempted from the law is more the norm than the exception, in my experience. It's still not wise to get on the nerves of the mayor/senator/executive/king in these situations, but there's sometimes a ridiculous amount of leeway.

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Toric 28th Aug 2014, 6:05 AM edit delete reply
It also doesn't hurt that you've saved their bacon with a magical McGuffin either, but I was expecting at least a little more of a lecture.

Story time: tell about an event where you DID NOT get away with something and a ruler/official punished you hard.
Digo 28th Aug 2014, 6:12 AM edit delete reply
In a Teen titans campaign I ran, the party was called to stop an in-progress jail break at a prison where a few minor super villains were kept.

The party was not gentle with the non-super population and the collateral to the prison itself wax pretty significant. After ending the rioting and recapturing all but 3 prisoners, the team got chewed out by the US National guard (and their own boss) over how expensive their "help" was.

The "Titans Initiative" was nearly disbanded right then and there if it weren't for the fact that the three prisoners that did escape were forming their own 'Legion of Doom'.
Raxon 28th Aug 2014, 7:47 AM edit delete reply
My characters actually usually actively avoid royalty or those of noble birth. Too much destiny, you know. Never ends well.

I suppose I do have a story... Ummm...

Huh. I guess there really aren't any good stories. There was the time my ranger exposed the king as a vampire before the kingdom. I then slew the vampire singlehandedly. And got lynched for it, because even though he was known to kill random people, he was still the king. The party distanced themselves from me. I was saved at the last moment by the royal family. Who had me tried and executed the very next day.

The DM was of the opinion that the king was still the king, and my actions were unjustified, because he was a good king, aside from needing to feed on people in order to live. What are a few human lives in exchange for the good of the kingdom, after all?
Digo 28th Aug 2014, 8:47 AM edit delete reply
I can see where the DM is coming from. Yeah, I avoid royalty for a lot of similar sticky issues like that.
guy 28th Aug 2014, 9:01 AM edit delete reply
Wow, that would seriously annoy me if my DM did that. Killing a murderous, unelected dictator is almost the very DEFINITION of the word "hero".
Raxon 28th Aug 2014, 10:05 AM edit delete reply
This was his idea of a dark, edgy king.

The king was actually very good to his people, except the ones he ate. I am of the personal opinion that a leader who kills his people will eventually see them all as pawns or cattle.

I saw him as an unfortunate man with good intentions slowly being corrupted. He saw the king as a good man with an unfortunate addiction.

Also, there was some contention between us over the politics. He argued that even corrupt authority is still authority, and must be respected. I argued that corruption must be opposed, and blind obedience and acceptance promotes despotism. A good man should fight injustice, even if he has to defy the king himself.
Malroth 28th Aug 2014, 11:40 AM edit delete reply
Sounds like a perfect tragic hero to me, Died saving the people from a force so insidious that they diddn't want to be saved from it.

Killing the Vampire King was a "GOOD" act but definately a Chaotic one
Raxon 28th Aug 2014, 12:12 PM edit delete reply
I don't think he distinguishes between a chaotic act, and an evil act, because "killing the king is murder, end of story!"
Freemage 28th Aug 2014, 2:54 PM edit delete reply
I blame 4th Edition, which ran on a scale from Good to Evil alignment, with "Lawful" and "Chaotic" as waypoints, instead of descriptors in their own right.

Mind you, I also would've set it up a little differently--I would've had the king, when exposed, offer a deal. He would leave the kingdom, without rancor or punishment--if, and only if, no volunteers from his populace came forward to feed his addiction voluntarily. There would be no coercion, no letting people volunteer other people. But a citizen who came forward and said, "Take my life, that the kingdom will continue to be ruled by your wisdom," would buy another week/month/whatever time was required.

At that point, he's no worse than a king who accepts volunteers for a suicide mission. THEN you've got a sticky moral situation. Your case, by comparison, was fairly cut-and-dried.
Anvildude 31st Aug 2014, 7:45 PM edit delete reply
Oh yeah. Sounds like the DM was truly Lawful Neutral, while you were Chaotic Good. Classic case of clashing alignments.

...I've always wanted to try playing a Lawful Evil character in a Good campaign...
Disloyal Subject 29th Aug 2014, 2:01 AM It's Murder? edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
Alignment-wise, it's pretty ambiguous, but clearly some form of Good based on motives. It makes sense that the populace wouldn't see it that way, though.
missfinefeather 29th Aug 2014, 3:22 PM edit delete reply
...wait, if he was so good, why didn't he feed on common criminals?
The Old One 28th Aug 2014, 1:19 PM edit delete reply
And yet, it is the very definition of The Emperor in Warhammer 40k's fluff: A mighty and powerful near-dead entity that maintains the beacon that allows navigation between the stars and who must be given the essences of millions of psychics in order to survive. If you're an Imperial player of any stripe, you largely have to consider this guy a good guy, while the Chaos Gods are considered bad guys (Although, to be fair, they are also pretty big dicks as well)

And this is why I play Tau :)
Disloyal Subject 29th Aug 2014, 1:58 AM CLEAVE AND SMITE! edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
The Imperium: even the Tau are more ethical. As for me... BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! Chaos allows me to tear down the broken systems fuelled by such pettiness as racism - speciesism? - and unite humanity!
Right up until it drives me insane and I just set everything on fire instead.
One of my homebrew PDF regiments has Exodite Eldar allies, so I'm obviously not big on the Imperium's stance on xenos; while there's a perverse joy to shooting nearly everything on sight being a completely valid and setting/character-appropriate action, it's a little disturbing to find that your character is murdering a beggar on the off-chance he plans to pull a knife.
Anvildude 31st Aug 2014, 7:46 PM edit delete reply

Orkz iz da best! Kuz Orkz iz Green, and Green iz Best!
Chakat Firepaw 28th Aug 2014, 2:53 PM edit delete reply
He may have been a murderous, unelected dictator, but if you don't have a good plan for what to do after your regicide you should probably expect a bad outcome.

From the description, the king was relatively popular so the default plan of "accept the accolades of the masses while they overthrow the rest of the power structure" wasn't in play.
Raxon 28th Aug 2014, 4:04 PM edit delete reply
Heh. I had the entire country witness the king force a screaming young maiden down onto a bed, and when she struck him, he threw her around by her bodice, tearing it off, making this look less like feeding on prey, and more like a very violent rape, as her screams slowly died, and were replaced by sobs, growing ever quieter until she expired. I had confirmed that the family had no idea. It was the king's secret.

Yeah. The population basically said, "Well, the king has the right to do whatever he needs to in order to keep us prosperous. Besides, she's probably a criminal anyway. The king would never kill me in such a manner. He values all of us, and we're not from (tiny podunk village), so who cares about those hicks?"

He had one carefully maintained village, where the people were rounded up like cattle, and whenever he felt a bit peckish, he would pick out a villager and feed.

I was honestly under the impression this was a guy I was supposed to deal with. Nope! It was a case of "we forgive great men for their flaws." This was honestly his attempt to make a king that was morally complex, saying that if he steps down, the kingdom could be ruined. So he treats this one village like cattle in order to make the lives of everyone else better.

He also reasoned that their quality of life was better now, since they had just been backwoods hicks, and he had raised them out of barbarism. You know, because even though he has to eat them, there's no reason to treat them nicely.

Yeah, this is a guy that I was supposed to accept as a noble king with some flaws.

EDIT: Ohhhhh... I get it now. He was doing that "Sometimes good people need to do bad things for the greater good!" I still think he's an idiot, because he could have had the king be very sympathetic. Heck, a vampiric king who asked people to give him pints of blood, rather than sacrifice their lives would be a much more sympathetic guy than someone who murders screaming, crying girls. After chatting with one ofthe guys a few minutes ago, they all distanced themselves because the DM has a tendency to do this, apparently, he's a big believer in having good guys act like bad guys and vice versa. Everyone else knew to stay the hell out of it when anything political came up.

Recently made a lawful evil character, and I hadn't even committed a crime before I was more or less forced to defend myself when some thief ran by me and threw a necklace around my neck. The city guard was chasing him, and arrested me on the spot. "Well, your evil character is rotting in a dungeon for the crime of stealing from the king. You better roll up a new character." Bad DM, bad!
CharginChuck 28th Aug 2014, 8:23 PM edit delete reply
I'm not sure "flaw" is quite a strong enough word to describe a habit of serial murder.
Raxon 28th Aug 2014, 8:38 PM edit delete reply
That was basically my opinion on the matter as well. I was genuinely surprised to learn that I was supposed to sympathize with this guy.

That said, does anyone blame me for thinking the king needed to be put down, especially after witnessing that murder scene that looked like rape/domestic abuse?

Edward Cullen was a more respectable vampire than this guy.

Yeah, I went there.
Evilbob 28th Aug 2014, 10:03 PM edit delete reply
You know Raxon... it really sounds like an interesting concept that king does...

No, I don't think he should have gone with "vampiric king". That sounds like a cop-out:
1) Because it uses a trite and hackneyed fantasy element (vampires), which is terrible for trying to get people to think outside the box or see new paradigms because they get stuck in a rut of preconceived notions. (just think "all zombies can spread zombification by infection and have excellent hearing and are immune to bullets unless shot in the head" - Says who??? On what basis can they not survive headshots having been able to survive every other fuckin' life-stopping processes?)
2) The GM fuckin' sounded like he was trying to impose a fuckin' moral lesson instead of running a game/story (that may or may not have lessons)! It would be much more interesting to have him have the kingdom go to shit because y'all removed the government that was holding everything together and usher in the dark ages, and just continue the game (maybe let the players take over and try to fix the shit they caused if they were so inclined or even just shift the campaign to more grimdark chaos setting.) rather than trying to impose a lesson. I think having an NPC doing both good and evil things is an interesting character. His mistake was trying to label the character as "good" or "bad" and forcing it on his players. That impression should be left to each person's judgment. It's just like these good ol' history. For example, Andrew Jackson, Chairman Mao, Emperor Hirohito; these famous people have both staunch admirers as well as fervent critics.

But yeah, if you get the feeling you should be feeling one way or the other... I don't think the GM did a good job...
Aeshdan 10th Feb 2016, 11:11 AM edit delete reply
I believe you were in the right.
The Angry Vegan 28th Aug 2014, 10:48 PM edit delete reply

Yeah, you know what? I would've killed the hell out of that guy. I mean, hell, even the Foundation tries to mainly use serious criminals, and even though they end up as 682 fodder anyways they at least get the illusion of volunteering.
Archone 29th Aug 2014, 1:13 AM Scions edit delete reply
This actually reminds me of the first, and last time, I ever played Scions. For those who aren't familiar, Scions is a game literally tailor made for Munchkins. You play a demigod. You START with the powers of a demigod and go on from there. And every NPC around you is literally disposable, because they're basically like dust in the wind you raise by your passing, or something like that.

After some effort to fit into this game and group, I settled on playing as a descendant of the Norse god Tyr (who seemed to be the least amoral deity out of the least amoral pantheon). The concept being that my character was a Federal Marshall who falls in with the group when the criminals start turning into monsters.

...And... things did not go well, in that game. At the end my character was insisting on finding the appropriate federal agency that undoubtedly existed to help young Scions with all of this, and which would probably have at least one deity in an administrative capacity. I didn't get into an argument with the GM about this, though.

...I got into an argument with two other players. Who, while the GM was absent, essentially elected themselves to speak on his behalf, and claimed that the rulebooks were canon - until I quoted them, at which point they said that they were only canon when the GM confirmed it; that the gods sneer at government (which would have been news to Odin, Zeus, and the other gods of government and rulership); and then one of them topped it off with metagaming threats and taunts, stating, "neither I nor my character see any reason to respect you or your character."

When did the GM punishment come into play? When he came back and decided it was easier just to boot me from the game rather than put up with the continued drama. Which I don't mind, it was definitely not a game for me... but that game in particular did lead to my conceiving two rules that I always tell my players at the start of each campaign:

1: the GM's word is law. Do not presume to speak on the GM's behalf unless you are prepared to be the GM.
2: you will respect your fellow players. Having your character threaten less combat-optimized characters will not be tolerated, and insults to other players is right out.
The MunchKING 29th Aug 2014, 6:46 AM edit delete reply
The MunchKING
Well Scion TRIES to make you care about the puny mortals with it's Fatebinding system, but I'll admit it doesn't do much to stop PCs from doing what they want.
Disloyal Subject 29th Aug 2014, 1:59 AM This anvil did not need dropping edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
I... Wow. That's pretty damning. Why did anyone let him DM, again??
Guest 29th Aug 2014, 5:24 AM edit delete reply
Huh, sounds like the DM was trying to portray some kind of poor man's version of Kaius III from Eberron. Well, except that Kaius used a select willing harem for feeding and never killed any of them.

Funnily enough, I could see the kingdom turning on your character as a decent twist if it was the case that they had aware of the King's vampirism and were just wilfully blind of it, but trying to depict serial murder as a 'vice' in an otherwise good king as if he just had a drinking problem (Which I suppose he kind of did) seems misguided at best.

The DM certainly had no right to assume your party would be okay with it without checking somehow.
Archone 29th Aug 2014, 2:09 PM edit delete reply
Honestly? Because he was one of the few GMs willing to tolerate the crap from some of these players. One of whom has since made efforts to work on their issues. The other... well, I haven't talked to him since that game, and let's just leave it at that.
Evilbob 28th Aug 2014, 10:16 PM edit delete reply
Wow. Harsh. Although, I wouldn't argue the actions taken, given the political climate of that game...really not that surprising.
Especially if the populace was already aware of what the king was doing (they WERE aware right? Because if they weren't, that kind of shocking expose SHOULD turn public opinion...
If they were, they've probably already been self-rationalizing and ignoring that village to begin with, the same way many people ignore injustices perpetrated in the world today.

Trying to argue the "justification of actions" and whether the guy was a "good king" or not, seemed kinda pointless though since in the end it's opinion and interpretation of the facts (King was great ruler, did well by most of his citizens; killed and treated terrible a small portion). You (and maybe some portion of the population, eg the cattle-village) would logically feel it was justified. Others may see it as unlawful (well, it was...) and possibly even evil (killing without proper trial or attempt to reform? It's like killing your crazy grandma! Okay... maybe that comparison doesn't really stack up...)
Raxon 29th Aug 2014, 12:52 PM edit delete reply
Holy crap! I was sure I was the crazy one. Turns out my belief that it is entirely reasonable to defy corrupt authority is justified! YES!


I mean, I usually am the crazy one in these arguments. Like arguing that the expedient path is to defect to the enemy side, then willingly become a cancer mage in order to destroy the enemy from within.

I still maintain that the Aboleth Order was creating a world ending crisis, and that sending in a living bioweapon was not an unreasonable response. But that got shut down on the basis of being unethical. They were in the middle of nowhere, no innocent civilians to be lost. My plan to nuke the place with a few hundred thousand necklaces of fireballs, fifteen barrels of alchemist fire, and a bag of holding, filled to the brim with steel safes, each filled with gunpowder and white phospherous, was a completely reasonable response to a threat that would have literally sucked the world into the far realm.

It would be a fifteen kiloton bomb that would continue to burn ground zero for months, leaving nothing left. This was declared to be unethical. The ethical thing was deemed to be going in, killing all the cultists with swords, and burning the place to the ground. I am not joking. We barely got any xp for that anyway. The cultists were all minions. We stopped the ritual before it could begin, and thus, no aboleths were summoned. If the aboleths had been summoned, we would have had ten turns to kill them before they finished the ritual to pull the world into the far realm. Six aboleths was not a level appropriate encounter, by the way.

I have had a bunch of DMs more or less shoot down my practical and strategically sound ideas because they thought it was inethical, or more commonly, "That's against your alignment." Screw that! Being good does not mean I have to choose honorable combat over just shooting the guy with the sword!
Dragonflight 29th Aug 2014, 7:51 AM edit delete reply

I ran a Crossover game once using Marvel Advanced rules. It blended DC and Marvel supers. Teen Titans cartoon, X-Men: Evolution, and a handful of other characters, including Edward Elric from Fullmetal Alchemist.

Anyway, the PC's go overboard with the "T-Bot," a giant robot which uses their powers in place of weaponry. The first time there's a prison break, Cyborg decides *that* is the perfect time to demonstrate the T-Bot in action.

A sixty foot giant robot. To stop a prison breakout. <insert facepalm here.>

Anyway, the collateral damage is about what you'd expect, and the T-Bot is trashed in the process when they accidentally also let Plasmus out of his cage. But as the Titans are congratulating themselves for a job well done, Edward is looking around at the wrecked prison, and just claps his hands together.

Ten minutes later, the prison is completely repaired.

This began his career as a contractor for "Damage, Incorporated," the super cleanup group that repairs damage from hero fights. He got paid a lot of money doing it, which he largely used to try to romance Starfire's sister. Blackfire was initially just stringing him along, but he eventually had several really solid emotional connections with her, which started to get through the tough outer shell. I was really impressed with the work he put into undoing her emotional issues.

But mostly, he just fixed things. Especially every time the group pulled the T-Bot out of storage and threw it into the fight.
Zena 30th Aug 2014, 10:52 AM edit delete reply
That sounds awesome! I know if I had FMA-style alchemy in a superhero universe, I'd start that business too.
Specter 28th Aug 2014, 7:41 AM edit delete reply
It was a dark night over Equestria. The moon was covered by clouds, no stars to light the way, and our team was who knows where, facing there greatest fears.

It started a little over a week ago, we were at our local watering grounds, when we got a new client who walked in the door. She didn't look out of the norm, blue pony, couldn't tell if needed to come to our table as if on business or to humbly shuffle towards us, and a unicorn to boot. She wanted us to search for her child, another unicorn named Trixie, who appeared to be lost in some city named Canterlot. Had we known what that place was, who was there, and the consequences of what would happen, we wouldn't have accepted the job.

Fast forward to us a few days later, we were within (now that we knew) the capital, looking for a mare in a star-dazzled hat and cape. We saw enough posters to know where and when to find her, and we should have know better, "Come one come all, to see the greatest feats of magic you have ever seen. The Great and Powerful Trixie will amaze you with spectacular displays for one night and one night only! Tonight, in the Canterlot castle at Midnight!"... We should have REALLY known better.

We got in, no problem, just had to confuse the guard with a riddle only our leader knew like the back of his hoof. We set off in two teams (three if you count myself watching our fool as another team altogether), 1) Search and rescue (for obvious reasons), 2) Distraction (see answer 1). I don't know what happened when we set off, watching our fool friend was easy enough. We watched a performance or two, gambled a bit, and caught a late night movie. Team 1 apparently got caught when they broke into the wrong room meant for some pony named Twilight (a friend of Trixie I think) and nabbed instead. Team 2 got caught when they tried to distract some guards with shoulder mounted fire-works. A giant fire canceled the performance.

The next day, I got news of a trail going on for some ponies who set fire to the castle ballroom (I flipped heads or hooves on whether I wanted to go) and that there is now a royal search party out and about trying to find the stolen Pony Twilight, prodigy student of Princess Celestia herself (well isn't that dandy). At the hearing, I witnessed two things, 1) Princess Luna (little sister of Princess Celestia) was the judge, and 2) Our pyrotechnics team was on trial and had two options, a fine or banishment (who would choose the latter?). Later, I heard that there was a bounty of 1,000,000 bits for information on the whereabouts of Twilight Sparkle from her friends (Elements of Harmony? Never heard of them), and the money was from a pony named Trixie (intrigue +1!). How could I refuse?

At the end of the day, my little fool was ready to retire from our doings (I could see why), and recommended I do the same. "Why" was the thought I had when I remembered Half of our group had a fine of 750,000 bits, and the other half was set to be banished to the unknown. I didn't really fear for what would happen to me if any thing like that happened, I met some nice mares, told Trixie what our job was, and then some of team ratted me out. Hurray for not caring. Now it's time for me to return to my job as a spy for the NightMare Legion.

A little off topic, but I like to finish a story.
Mykin 28th Aug 2014, 8:57 AM edit delete reply
Between the new campaign and the (now over) campaign that I had managed to get to two of the sessions for, we the players decided to tackle one last job before starting over with our characters. I ended up skipping one of our filler sessions due to work (there was two of them) so I, unfortunately, joined in at the time when the madness had peaked to a high I never thought possible. See, our wizard and barbarian were hunting a random guy down to get his head when the barbarian discovered some big, oddly colored mushrooms. Being a barbarian, he felled it with one quick swoop which sent it flying up into the air and exploded in multiple colors. He then swiftly used said mushrooms by launching them into the camp where their target was at, killing everyone there and causing a chain reaction that set off all the other mushrooms and lit the forest on fire with chaotic magic.

I joined at this point and our wizard decided to try and save the forest by summoning one of her tutors to help...which got her and the barbarian sent to the council of epic leveled wizards. Our halfling monk was panicking because he had an unnatural fear of fire and got sent there too. So, seeing as most of my party got sent away to be judged (I had asked where they got sent to and that was my answer,) I wisely told the truth and said I had only been here for 2 seconds and hadn't gotten a chance to do anything...So it should be no surprise that I got sent to be judged too.

So in the pocket dimension courtroom that all 11 epic wizards had made, we were all charged with the destruction of our native dimension (as the chaotic fire was literally destroying everything, including existence itself...somehow.) So our barbarian played lawyer and managed to plea incompetence for him and the wizard (who was irate at being charged as such) so they got scotch free. Our monk got fried when the hated enemy of the council appeared and was nuked to high heaven, so they just did a true rez on him and considered him done.

So I, being the good cleric that I was, said the same thing I said before. Our barbarian, however, decided to act against me because, well, I was trying to defend myself as oppose to the wizard who refuse to do so. So yea, out of everyone in our party that was there, I, the only one that couldn't do anything, was charged with destroying a dimension due to inaction and I was punished thusly...or rather I got to pick who would punish me. Between being target practice for one half and being experimented upon by the other, I picked the insane lich who was irate at being woken up for something silly. My reasoning was that one of the things he did was help a group of paladins complete their holy quest for a danish. So I was hoping for something just as random.

The die was cast and my punishment was to go to the most prominent temple of my god (which, ironically, was Pelor's own dimension in his own temple where he lived) and moon the largest statue of him for 2 minutes. Given how pious my cleric was, this was akin to a death sentence in his mind. Still, he was allowed to explain things to Pelor and, after doing his sentence, was drop kicked to somewhere where he could actually do some good. And we ended things on that note.
SIccarus 28th Aug 2014, 6:39 PM edit delete reply
I wasn't there personally for this, from what I gathered our party had an appointment with a king to speak with him about the sudden rise in outsider incursions. This was our Rogues first time playing a Rogue so he thought it was a smart Idea to lift some some knick knacks. As they were moving through the palace, one of them spotted a Sorceress that Fire-balled us a few days back. So the Pair of paladins, and the rogue chase her down and just see her pass through these big doors. So they do what any Player would do, Break the door down. Turns out, the sorceress was an illusion and the Door way was to the kings bed room, where he was getting changed. The whole lot of them were arrested. Which lead to the creation of our Party Lawyer, we managed to talk the royalty down from Execution to a week in prison and their tongues cut off.
Evilbob 28th Aug 2014, 10:37 PM edit delete reply
Oh man! Storytime of Definitely Not Getting Away With Something! And this time I actually have something (possibly) interesting to share!

So this story dates back a year or two ago when MLP: Roleplaying is Magic just finished its season 1 edition run and was starting its new season 2 edition, so pardon if some of the details are a bit fuzzy:

The campaign was totally (or at least it was supposed to be) slice-of-life. It was also the first time most of us were roleplaying, we were all so very new...

Things started out innocuously enough. We had fun doing insanely pedestrian things: having picnics, sharing the fruits of our labor with our friends (bellfruits), teasing our sleeping friend in the tree, and generally messing around.

Then... then came the shitstorm. It started... with a marble.

We had set up the picnic and had gone off to help one of our more party-inclined friends to buy some supplies to spruce up the picnic. When we came back, one of our prized possessions, a marble, was missing.

We later discovered that the griffon mafia had taken it. We went on warpath to the shady docks of Ponyville (Yeah, the GM had some interesting settings...) where they usually hung out and we barged into the bar. After some general shouting, a scuffle, and some minimal property damage, we took an unconscious griffon mafia for questioning at a warehouse we found to be more secluded.

This is where things went terribly wrong. We could't find any water to douse the griffon in to wake him up despite being on a dock (failed search roll), our unicorn friend decided to pour conjured water on the griffon to wake him up... He rolled a critical failure and managed to set the poor guy on fire... We failed to find any water still... and so accidentally committed murder and arson all in one go...

Now at this point some heavy metagaming went on and we basically got the gist that if we ever caught, we would basically all go to prison for life, regardless of the actual circumstances...

Guess what?

We ran for it.

We nearly got away too.

We stole one of the ships on the dock and sailed for open sea.

A hydra came out of nowhere and upset our boat.

We continued running, even so far as gaining comfortable distance from the hydra on foot.

We were confronted by a manticore. We all literally successfully ran around it so that the hydra got to meet the manticore instead of us.

DEUS EX MACHINA. The Princesses literally and personally descend from the clouds and arrest us.
Princesses Fall, Game Over.

Epilogue: We were all to be imprisoned for life. My character tried to commit suicide because he hated tiny places and couldn't bear to live without his bellfruit farm. He crit-succeeded on a skill check against courage. He crit-failed on the actual suicide. He ended up in prison, and completely paralyzed, for life.
Disloyal Subject 29th Aug 2014, 2:05 AM It's Not Like I Haven't Sicced Avenging Angels on the Druid edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
I want to call that Diabolus Ex Machina, but it IS the Princesses...
I'd have thought they'd at least hear you out, though; they're usually pretty reasonable. Leaving you imprisoned for a few days before a proper interrogation's not out of the question, but lifetime without trial is pretty harsh.
Nixitur 29th Aug 2014, 10:09 AM edit delete reply
Wow, Evilbob, that's what I call bullshit.

It seems like the GM just really wanted to teach you a lesson and conjured MULTIPLE Dei Ex Machina to stop you, regardless of plausibility.

Not to mention the inability to find water at a dock. That shouldn't even REQUIRE a roll.
Sure, if your character was extremely clumsy, they might not be able to SAFELY get the water (instead faling into it while trying to heave up a full bucket), but finding it should be so trivial as to not require a roll.

Also, docks of Ponyville? I mean, sure, Ponyville is near a river, but it's SO close to the town center that I don't think there would be any space for "shady docks". Furthermore, Ponyville is a small town, not some huge city.
If you wanted shady docks in an MLP:FiM setting, you could just go with a less-explored city. Like Manehattan. Or Baltimare. On the official map, both are right next to the sea. On the map, Baltimare even has a bay with a little boat in it, implying that they have a port.

I struggle to think how the GM EVER came up with that setting idea. It's complete nonsense.
Raxon 28th Aug 2014, 6:05 AM edit delete reply
As you know, this is the standard greeting and sign of thanks when dealing with rulers and fetishists.

The two are very much alike, in many ways.
kiapet 28th Aug 2014, 6:15 AM edit delete reply
I was going to say,
Oh no, one of the nation's heroes wants to marry into royalty.
I mean, it's not the worst Rarity could be doing.

Also, the look on Celestia's face in that last panel is hilarious.
Raxon 28th Aug 2014, 6:38 AM edit delete reply
Rarity, darling! Not here! Someone will see!
Digo 28th Aug 2014, 7:08 AM edit delete reply
I do love the modesty Celestia showed during that scene.
Raxon 28th Aug 2014, 7:13 AM edit delete reply
My headcannon splooged- I mean spurted- umm, discharged- screw it. This metaphor play is going nowhere.

I think she actually hates all the stuffy day to day protocol, and being treated like anything other than just a fellow pony.
Dusk Raven 28th Aug 2014, 7:27 AM edit delete reply
Hell, the second-to-last panel has a good shot of her as well. I don't even remember that expression...
Digo 28th Aug 2014, 8:49 AM edit delete reply
That's an awesome one too.
Disloyal Subject 28th Aug 2014, 11:33 AM Celestia edit delete reply
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She does fit the profile for that modest royalty archetype, and I've assumed for a while that she'd prefer to be treated as a pony first and royalty second. Heck, A Bird in the Hoof practically spelled it out... And The Crystal Empire's ominous conversation between her & Luna supported my other prime belief about her being a benevolently manipulative puppetmaster.
Of course, there may be differences between this Celestia and the show's.
Kinrah 28th Aug 2014, 6:44 AM edit delete reply
Been waiting for a suitable topic to post this... An attempt by a player to fight the law. (TL;DR: He lost.)

A couple of years ago, I was spectating a game of Call of Cthulu over Steam - only watching mainly due to the fact that I have zero roleplaying experience. I was there more unofficially to copy down the session so the GM could refer to it later. There were five actual players, though one of them didn't show up until after this story finishes, so I won't mention him again.

We were in the phase of introducing everyone's characters, around the context of the disappearance of a famous doctor. Having introduced a cop assigned to crowd control around the crime scene, a drunk who lived nearby, and a guy in town to attend a conference headed by said doctor, the GM moved on to introduce a guy who'd been walking in the area at the time of the disappearance.

The morning after the incident, this second guy, Dante, was woken by a police officer knocking at the door, with the GM intending to do some standard questioning. Dante's player, upon seeing the officer outside, attempted to leave out the back, and after a successful Spot Hidden roll revealed more officers there, he proceeded to load his handgun, shoot the front door cop in the head, then botch a dodge roll and die.

There was then fifteen minutes of all-caps arguing over meta-gaming retconning the death, attempts at zombification, hospital, prison, whether or not the death penalty applied, prison breaks, and Dante becoming the wife of a big guy named Brick, at which point Dante's player was kicked from the game. All of us being from the same community, we knew the player could be a troll at times, but we weren't really prepared for how much of a troll he was going to be.

As far as I'm aware, that first session was the only session, as afterwards schedules kept conflicting, but it was entertaining, to say the least, even if it was mostly spent on the campaign introduction.
Disloyal Subject 29th Aug 2014, 1:48 AM Xth Pays For All edit delete reply
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Well. I suppose it was only a matter of time before I regretted clicking one of your links.
Raxon 29th Aug 2014, 12:58 PM edit delete reply
It is a shadowrun thing. Bubba the Love Troll is a noncanon(as far as I know) troll who lives in prisons and is one long "this is your cellmate in prison" joke.
geomease 28th Aug 2014, 8:36 AM edit delete reply
Look look with your special eyes rarity
Ref 28th Aug 2014, 9:27 AM edit delete reply
Yeah, something told me that last panel was coming.
Akouma 28th Aug 2014, 9:38 AM edit delete reply
I remember once time I was sitting on a session of a game, so the DM gave the role of judge (with all the powers therein so long as my use of them was sane - he's a cool DM) in the trial of a PC. Well, sort of PC. They played a one-shot as different characters in the same world one time, and she was one of the PCs from that game.

Anyway, the guilty verdict came down on that one and she's in jail to this day. And the ACTUAL PCs, being her employers, saw a minor punishment for their organization as well.
Specter 28th Aug 2014, 2:19 PM edit delete reply

Well, today is my brother's birthday, so instead of doing any themed based videos, I'll just link one of his favorite songs, enjoy
Freelance 28th Aug 2014, 11:01 PM edit delete reply
This one time, our party was called in to be witnesses for a case. Only instead of actively being on the stand or taking it as is, our DM made us roll Charisma checks. I ended up botching the roll, and because of that, I was sent to jail in suspicion of collaboration or some such. It was only by the good word of a paladin and being a person in otherwise good standing (LG and all that) that my character was excused.
Mystery Potato 29th Aug 2014, 8:28 AM edit delete reply
I just decided: When you get to Season 4, you HAVE TO make Trenderhoof Elusive.
terrycloth 29th Aug 2014, 12:49 PM edit delete reply
Nah, Elusive is obviously Rainbow Dash.
Raxon 29th Aug 2014, 12:59 PM edit delete reply
Nonsense. Spike was Elusive the whole time!
undead_rattler 29th Aug 2014, 5:10 PM edit delete reply
...that's a really weird way to spell Gummy :/
Starphoenix 30th Aug 2014, 12:01 AM edit delete reply
And Tom plots in the background, delighted to be overlooked as the rock behind the gator behind the dragon behind the...
Draxynnic 30th Aug 2014, 5:36 AM edit delete reply
Nah, Elusive is Philomena(sp?). Because nobody would expect an inside job from the phoenix drama queen.