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7th Apr 2015, 6:00 AM in Fall Weather Friends
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Hardest of Sells
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Newbiespud 7th Apr 2015, 6:00 AM edit delete
Then again, maybe trying to sell a party on a bunch of tabletop roleplayers is a fundamentally flawed idea...

So, starting tomorrow morning I begin a last-minute two-day roadtrip down to Safford, AZ to spend three days in a big ol' family reunion before spending another two days going all the way back up to Portland. Yaaay.

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Digo 7th Apr 2015, 6:12 AM edit delete reply
I really never had much of a problem getting players to attend a fancy social party. I mean there is usually something for everyone:

Fighter: Hobnobs with the high-ranking officers.
Rogue: Shiny stuff to pilfer.
Bard: Opportunity to use those new pick-up lines!
Wizard: Plays pranks on unsuspecting aristocrats.
Cleric: Blesses banquet.

Hilarious little story on that last point-- One party I sent the party to was because one of the guests was replaced by a demon who was to assassinate the king's son. The PCs show up and do their thing at the party.

After a while, the team felt that this demon was a bit too good at hiding. So the cleric in the party had an idea-- went into the kitchen and blessed all the food.

15 minutes later one of the aristocrats started choking on the caviar and his disguise broke. Demon found! :D
Mykin 7th Apr 2015, 9:17 AM edit delete reply
Dang, I'm going to have to remember that one the next time I need to find a demon in disguise. That is just pure genius there.
Kaze Koichi 9th Apr 2015, 1:48 AM edit delete reply
And I need to remember it next time I need to hide a demon.
TM Shelton 7th Apr 2015, 6:40 AM edit delete reply
What the heck--?! I'm from Safford. No one ever mentions Safford on the internet ! ...YOU HAVE BROKEN THE TABOO!!
No, seriously though, I been following this comic for a while and this surprised me enough that I'm commenting for the first time. So who's your Safford family?
Guest 7th Apr 2015, 6:46 AM edit delete reply
How things translate things to RPG players.

Big party = hidden foe.

Room full of people = room full of killable exp.

High society = secret society

Secret society = pointless quest that is annoying or guild of thieves.

Something for everyone = only one person is going to be doing anything.
Digo 7th Apr 2015, 6:51 AM edit delete reply
I like that first part of 'Secret Society' given what high Society translates to. Nice. XD
Guest 14th Sep 2015, 7:08 PM edit delete reply
Wow, you have really shitty players.
j-eagle12212012 7th Apr 2015, 7:40 AM edit delete reply
I'm with RD this pitch sounds like someone reading a brochure lol
ANW 7th Apr 2015, 7:40 AM edit delete reply
This one maybe a re-do, but it's been long enough.
When it comes to magic, almost all sources agrees on one thing. 7.
Yet, there is only 6 Elements of Harmony(it's still seems weird that the first part of that word is Harm)
Can you come up with a 7th Element.
And who would wield it.
Me: Love and Spike.
Random Person 7th Apr 2015, 8:10 AM edit delete reply
I thought Sunset Shimmer was the 7th. In Rainbow Rocks, she helps channel the elements and defeat the Dazzlings.

Maybe element of forgiveness? Or am I way off here?
Brainstorm 7th Apr 2015, 8:36 AM edit delete reply
I thought that was Fluttershy's stick? Kindness and giving people/ponies a chance was at the heart of Discord's reformation.
Toric 7th Apr 2015, 2:10 PM edit delete reply
Because the elements have been more or less nullified, I don't believe she qualifies as an element of Harmony. Instead, I would argue that it was purely Equestrian Magic leftover from the first visit that MANIFESTED as Harmony between friends. Twilight now has a sort of inherent friendship magic from Rainbow Power, so that plus the positive harmonic feelings of the entire group emerged to defeat the Sirens' evil magic.
Digo 7th Apr 2015, 8:42 AM edit delete reply
Considering some of my old local friends, I'd go with Patience.
JEqual12212012 7th Apr 2015, 9:34 AM edit delete reply
Equality = Starlight glimmer ^_^
j-eagle12212012 7th Apr 2015, 9:50 AM edit delete reply
Strength and Big Mac
terrycloth 7th Apr 2015, 10:39 AM edit delete reply
Spike, element of Nachos.
Toric 7th Apr 2015, 10:40 AM edit delete reply
Booze and Berry Punch.

Or Muffins and Derpy.
sidhe3141 7th Apr 2015, 11:37 AM edit delete reply
Trixie, Element of Forgiveness.
Blueblade 7th Apr 2015, 4:12 PM edit delete reply
I have had an idea for a 7th element forever now, and now I finally have a reason to share what it is. The 7th element could be the element of Trust. As of who would wield it... I Haven't gotten that far yet.
Borg 7th Apr 2015, 11:09 PM edit delete reply
Come on, man. 8 is the number of magic. Haven't you ever heard of octarine? Way more special than violet.

The seventh and eighth elements are of course far more important than the six minor ones that were allowed to gather dust in an abandoned castle for a millennium. They are harmony and discord, wielded of course by (respectively) the Tree of Harmony and nopony at all, since the Tree keeps the Element of Discord hidden. There has to be one for balance, but that doesn't mean the Tree has to allow it to be used.
Super Kami Guru 7th Apr 2015, 11:58 PM edit delete reply
Wouldn't the tree itself be a counter-balance to discord though? I mean he's the MLP equivalent of a GOD of chaos. If that isn't representative of inherent disharmony in an ecological system, or for entropy in general then I really have no idea what is.
Wha..? 8th Apr 2015, 6:04 AM edit delete reply
When it comes to magic, no two sources ever agree on anything. Unless you're just referring to themes driven by pop-culture.

But I suppose that qualifies for MLP. This isn't exactly a discourse on collegiate anthropology.

Maybe the 7th element could be Education?
Ponikon 8th Apr 2015, 3:43 PM edit delete reply
Clearly, the 7th is the Element of Pointless Fan Ideas that Will Result in Poor Fic.
Specter 7th Apr 2015, 8:43 AM edit delete reply
Giant social parties that a few players like, sounds about as nice as a bandit party I had to go to with my group.

The bandit party we had to go to, was like that out of a mafia movie, we had several bandits from several groups talking and negotiating deals that they will stick to for the following year, and we, the hired band of "law men", had to crash it and run. Our plan was simple; split up, see what chaos you can erupt.

Here is a quick note of what our group did.

-Night Lash (rogue): Took her time to steal as much pocket change as she could without getting caught. Treasure of note: The cube of Rubix.

-Lush Green (druid): Plant several pollen plants, then magically grow them so that the pollen would catch wind, and drift to the bandit convention.

-Glass jaw (barbarian): Drink! Drink! Drink!

-Backstab (rogue2): Tell the leaders that there was a group of law men at the camp.

-Sir Stabby (Paladin turned anti): Preaching to the bandits about joining his order.

-Alter Ego (me, fighter): Butler around for a bit and pretend to be (roll d20 knowledge nobility)'s servant.

The bandits left rather quickly for that one... and I got dragged with one group by mistake.
Digo 7th Apr 2015, 12:57 PM edit delete reply
Given the names of the PCs, I want to guess that this is either Pony, Shadowrun, or both. XD
Specter 7th Apr 2015, 1:46 PM edit delete reply
I have yet to play a good sci-fi table top RPG game. So I'm willing to bet the list will get a lot shorter.
Mykin 7th Apr 2015, 9:15 AM edit delete reply
Heh, I used to do the exact same thing when I was living in Washington. Though my big old family reunion was in Utah at some camp site whose name keeps escaping me despite the fact that I've gone there for years. My reaction to the trip was pretty much the same too. Though now I live in Utah so I don't have to travel as far to get there now days.

I hope you have fun spending time with your family, regardless of the long boring trip it takes to get there and back.
Disloyal Subject 7th Apr 2015, 7:43 PM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
We're pretty much contained to California, but I look at long road trips as a chance to pick one or two dozen CDs I haven't listened to recently and prioritize which ones to load onto my iPod next.
Evilbob 7th Apr 2015, 4:13 PM edit delete reply

I mean, C'mon! Who RPs to attend parties??? You can attend stuffy parties normally! It's the killing and using magic that you can't do in RL...
Raxon 7th Apr 2015, 7:35 PM edit delete reply
The DM neglected to mention that there is free food and drink everywhere.
Mykin 8th Apr 2015, 5:35 PM edit delete reply
I doubt it would make that much of a difference in this case. Unless the stat boosts on them were turned up to a ridiculous level.
Guest 7th Apr 2015, 7:39 PM edit delete reply
wizard went to a high class party like this.

all the guests were stuck up snobs so the wizard robs the buffet table using a form of bag of holding, then castes two spells on a time delay and leaves.

One made the floor super slippery
the other made the ceiling rain spoiled fish.
Baeraad 8th Apr 2015, 7:09 AM edit delete reply
My success at getting PCs to par-TAY have been a bit mixed. Sometimes it works, but sometimes... well.

I once presented the two current players of my Exalted campaign with a great funeral feast (the third player character had been killed in battle, and the culture they were part of required him to be sent on to the afterlife with much drinking and singing). I figured that after the hard-won battle he fell in, they could use a session of relaxation and letting their characters enjoy some luxury as befitting a pair of Exalts.

And now you're thinking, "well, if they'd just lost a friend, of course they weren't in any mood to party," but no... that wasn't the problem. The problem was, I hadn't considered who the PCs actually were.

PC # 1: Twilight-caste scholar. Spent the happiest time of her life post-Exaltation living in a tower-manse deep in the forest and working her way through the magically preserved First Age library in it. Use for other people: zero. Interest in food, drink or any other non-intellectual pleasures: minus fifty-nine.

PC # 2: Night-caste hunter. Grew up in the middle of a noisy, demanding family and took to a solitary life in the wilderness as soon as she was old enough to string a bow. Likes people, really - or rather, likes the general idea of people being safe and happy and AT A COMFORTABLE DISTANCE, where they won't expect her to do anything unpleasant, like have a conversation.

Long story short, they spent the whole session trying to hide from well-meaning partyers trying to buy them drinks. :P
Zagreus 8th Apr 2015, 7:40 AM edit delete reply
I actually managed to come away from the last such event my character attended with more loot than any of the other characters, including our resident tailor, and the inevitable charismancer. My wizard (Who is a generalist that nontheless specializes in illusion and enchantment spells) was able to double dip by entertaining the guests and getting a few consultations by the rich and powerful in, courtesy of his profession (Wizard) skill.
It turns out that quite a few powerful people believe they have been cursed by real or perceived enemies, or simply want someone to ask about magical strategy.

Bu the end of the evening he was lugging around so much valuable stuff that I had to summon a floating disc to carry it all.
JEqual12212012 8th Apr 2015, 7:54 AM edit delete reply
"Our Town" throws the best parties
The Froggy Ninjs 8th Apr 2015, 11:15 AM I'm exited for the future. edit delete reply
I'm curious to see how long it will take to get to season five and their reactions to the map and more standard adventuring.
Moonstone 9th Apr 2015, 4:28 AM edit delete reply
Oddly, my group likes to *throw* parties at relatively random times, and said parties tend to get out of hand. One wound up so crazy that the DM had everyone do flat charisma rolls to see HOW MANY people they woke up in bed with, for example.

...My sorcerer was the oddball of the group, and I rolled high, so she and her twenty new 'friends' all woke up on the roof.

Hilariously, the player that *caused* the most craziness in the party and drove things in such a perverse direction also rolled the lowest. The fighter was very jealous of the sorcerer's 'skills'.

Another time one of them goaded the NPCs on a boat into partying with them, and wound up somehow getting the boat itself lodged in the roof of the manor of a noble. Thirty miles inland, from the direction opposite the river. I'm not sure how they managed that one.