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Maybe, but it's much more difficult to assist the social tank from behind bars or while being pursued by guards.
Or with a dozen crossbow bolts between your shoulder blades.
Hmm. It's easier to aim for the flank on a pony.
Sorry, just a bit of Fridge Logic there.
Sorry, just a bit of Fridge Logic there.
Pah, the challenge is not getting caught! When you crash a party, you gotta plan it out. Know your exit strategy, who to woo, and the lyrics to at least three rock-n-roll songs to contrast against their classical music selection. ;)
Except that the Captain of the Guard is a Paladin, who would probably be more likely to enforce the law and evict them but be lenient with the resulting punishment.
My point is that it's difficult for someone like Rarity to benefit from her group's presence when that presence is a disruptive party crash. Let's face it, this group has chosen diplomacy, but not really the sort to talk their way into this exclusive high-profile event without arousing suspicion. Besides, they're just famous enough to be recognized, particularly if they've been kept off the invitation list deliberately.
My point is that it's difficult for someone like Rarity to benefit from her group's presence when that presence is a disruptive party crash. Let's face it, this group has chosen diplomacy, but not really the sort to talk their way into this exclusive high-profile event without arousing suspicion. Besides, they're just famous enough to be recognized, particularly if they've been kept off the invitation list deliberately.
Hypothetical question. We all understand what it is to be a social tank. What, then, would a social rogue be? A social cleric? A social mage?
A social mage is clearly the Mighty Diplomancer, able to talk any monster or villain into complacence. It's what social tanks want to be when they grow up.
A social rogue is basically the guy who convinces you that punching yourself in the face is the best thing to do.
And the social cleric is the one who cleans up afterward.
A social rogue is basically the guy who convinces you that punching yourself in the face is the best thing to do.
And the social cleric is the one who cleans up afterward.
I don't know about social rangers, but social druids are literal party animals.
One doesn't simply party crash a BILDERBERG meeting, silly!
For a moment, I thought RD's comment was "More face time for the *fetishista*," which seriously changes the mental image I had. Reminds me of a picture of Fluttershy in a dominatrix outfit I stumbled across one time on the net...
Ah yes, the bizarre disconnect of what the Mane Six have done versus how famous they are. This is a fairly good explanation for it, especially with ulterior motives at work.
I think I have story time.
Name a time when you did something for fame.
Me: All those polls. Joking. Haven't done any thing.
Name a time when you did something for fame.
Me: All those polls. Joking. Haven't done any thing.
Not sure offhand how common this trope is in more Western entertainment, but anyone here who watches anime or reads manga might be familiar with the character archetype of the thief or con artist who doesn't seem to care about anything other than money...until later in the storyline, when you find out he's using his questionably-gotten gains to support a small, helpless village, or raising the ransom, or bail, for a kidnapped or unjustly imprisoned grandfather, or something similarly selfless and noble.
I've been playing a character whose backstory involved disaster befalling her home village. She could very easily have gone down that exact character path, except for one (or two) things: first, the disaster that befell her village came in the form of a flying undead monster who pretty much just picked off townspeople one by one until there was just a meager handful left. The town's not really short on money or supplies, just people. Also, my character's a bard.
So whenever the party has ANY downtime in a town, I spend it on fame-building performances in community centers, figuring that if I can make myself a household name, my hometown can get spillover fame and attract new settlers.
I've been playing a character whose backstory involved disaster befalling her home village. She could very easily have gone down that exact character path, except for one (or two) things: first, the disaster that befell her village came in the form of a flying undead monster who pretty much just picked off townspeople one by one until there was just a meager handful left. The town's not really short on money or supplies, just people. Also, my character's a bard.
So whenever the party has ANY downtime in a town, I spend it on fame-building performances in community centers, figuring that if I can make myself a household name, my hometown can get spillover fame and attract new settlers.
Wait a moment, there was a monster eating people in your village and instead of finding a way to kill it or rescue the people you were trying to find a way to bring more innocents for it to eat?
My introduction to the party involved us hunting down and capturing the monster, and then hunting down the mad mage who'd created it and bringing him to justice. So that had been dealt with.
For fame... except for playing as Trixie, I don't think fame was something any of my characters has set for a primary objective. Unless impressing a girl counts?
The closest deliberate action I have is presenting a witch's head to the village that housed her and declaring her crimes; otherwise, fame was an unfortunate consequence of choices like signing on to work for a Rogue Trader. Bastard made a movie about us and signed us up for every endorsement deal he could.
I wonder if it says something about me, that the only time my characters have any fame is when I finally get one to live past two sessions in a normal game. Ya know, in spite of everything that has happened.
Fame is not my strong suit, I leave that to everyone else. All I ever do is fight against the odds and call it a day.
Middle school math competitions were essentially tough standardized tests graded on curves. I repeatedly got top 5 in state on them, mainly cause I thought it might look good later?
Would Fluttershy be excused from this since she was able to get a dragon to back off and prevent a natural sun-ending disaster?
Slay a giant at a poor villager. Get poor villager's thanks. Save a king from a large rat. Entire kingdom hails you as a hero.
That's the difference in profile saving. Also a reason to stage a danger and "save" said high profile target.
If you can't raise an army of blighted zombies to attack an important figure just so your group can rush in and "save" him with your anti-zombie equipment then I don't want to be right!
That's the difference in profile saving. Also a reason to stage a danger and "save" said high profile target.
If you can't raise an army of blighted zombies to attack an important figure just so your group can rush in and "save" him with your anti-zombie equipment then I don't want to be right!
Depends how many people OTHER than that Mane Six actually saw that happen?
...welcome to the perils of high society.
...welcome to the perils of high society.
I think it was everyone that was in place where you could see the peak of the mountain from.
Yeah, that has to be worth some points toward Fluttershy.
Fluttershy could save some noble's pet and win tickets for herself and her guests. The GM may be keeping that as a backup in case everything else falls through.
Twilight-Ursa major ( They don't have to know that it's actually an Ursa minor)
Rainbow Dash- Join the Wonderbolts ( Because they perform at the gala)
Fluttershy-She should have a freebie because giant dragon and all that
Applejack- Save Appleloosa perhaps?
Pinkie Pie- save a town from parasprite
Rarity- She can just go as Danity Dove.
Spike- Twilights +1?
Derpy- Because why not?
Rainbow Dash- Join the Wonderbolts ( Because they perform at the gala)
Fluttershy-She should have a freebie because giant dragon and all that
Applejack- Save Appleloosa perhaps?
Pinkie Pie- save a town from parasprite
Rarity- She can just go as Danity Dove.
Spike- Twilights +1?
Derpy- Because why not?
Alternative strategy: in the next two months before the Gala, release Discord. That got the six of them publicly recognized for heroism, after all.
I wouldn't put it past her, once she learns of Discord.
From the plot I re-read through, I could make only a few guess'.
Twilight is the sister of the captain of the guard, maybe she would want to see what he does for a living?
Rainbow is a barbarian, so it would make sense for her to try to barge in for some random reason ("impress" the wonderbolts, and make a show of it).
Fluttershy... give her a note stating that Celestia's pet is sick again? It would at least give her access to part of the castle.
Applejack could go as a chef, cause unlike random ponies no one has heard about, staff is a little easier to get in.
Pinkie... uh... I really don't know. Dainty Dove's assistant?
Rarity... I mean Dainty Dove, could just go.
Rainbow Dash performs a Sonic Rainboom at the Best Young Flier contest.
Fluttershy has her modeling career.
Fluttershy has her modeling career.
So this arc should just be called "Season One" lol
Heh, that just gave a picture of the Mane 6 being best buds with Discord and asking him to come and spread chaos in the kingdom for a bit, so that they can publicly "defeat" him and show their heroism. Probably not where the GM (or Spud) plan on going, but boy if that doesn't sound like something a roleplayer would come up with.
The problem with that is most players don't consider the possibility of this backfiring harshly on them. Or at the very least, becoming a lot more than they originally thought.
I can just see it now: Discord is all on board with Twilight's idea of a mock battle but comes up with a better idea: He'll just take the power of the Elements out of them and then have them regain said powers in front of everyone right before the battle! That way, no one will ever question that they were the right ones to have said power in the first place! Before anyone could object, he takes their power away and gives them a cryptic clue on where to find them before going off to prepare for the "battle".
At least, it's something I would do if I was a GM and my players were trying to do that in my game.
I can just see it now: Discord is all on board with Twilight's idea of a mock battle but comes up with a better idea: He'll just take the power of the Elements out of them and then have them regain said powers in front of everyone right before the battle! That way, no one will ever question that they were the right ones to have said power in the first place! Before anyone could object, he takes their power away and gives them a cryptic clue on where to find them before going off to prepare for the "battle".
At least, it's something I would do if I was a GM and my players were trying to do that in my game.
The Nightmare Moon bit aside, wouldn't Twilight's position as Celestia's personal student, be enough to warrant her(and perhaps Spike) a ticket to the gala?
Not if someone is trying to deliberately keep them out of the gala.
Celestia could just ignore them if she felt like it anyway.
She's the god-empress. If she want personnal friends to attend, who will stop her? No one that want to keep their job.
Celly used the "official" channels at first, and they shot her down with a fair reason. She can use her authority if she want (but she doesnt want to right now).
She's the god-empress. If she want personnal friends to attend, who will stop her? No one that want to keep their job.
Celly used the "official" channels at first, and they shot her down with a fair reason. She can use her authority if she want (but she doesnt want to right now).
Shy looks to be the type of PC that this would not work on.
Am I the only one who has PC that when a DM tries something like this, they don't go along with it?
For half of my PC's, if they did not want to go to a party, and the DM makes it harder to go. They would be relived. Makes it harder for the rest of the party to blame they for not showing up.
Am I the only one who has PC that when a DM tries something like this, they don't go along with it?
For half of my PC's, if they did not want to go to a party, and the DM makes it harder to go. They would be relived. Makes it harder for the rest of the party to blame they for not showing up.
Clearly, they need to just kill somebody important.
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