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Newbiespud 15th Jun 2015, 6:00 AM edit delete
Hopefully, by this point, I'll be back in my own place. Unless the electricity situation finds some other way to become horribly complicated...

EDIT: It did!! Add 1d6+1 days!

You can talk about Episode 100 spoilers on Thursday's comic. I promise I'll have seen it by then.

Notice: Guest comic submissions are open! Guidelines here. Deadline: January 27th, 2023.



Toric 16th Jun 2015, 6:01 AM edit delete reply
Yes! I knew it! Twilight for the inappropriate and unexpected win? Ever been beaten in a skill challenge by a player with much lower bonuses than you?
Digo 16th Jun 2015, 6:12 AM edit delete reply
The Great and Powerful Trixie once beat everyone in a stealth test to enter a villain hideout. We used GURPS, so it's a skill target number you got to roll at or under on 3d6. Trixie had a penalty for being a bright blue unicorn with a big purple pointed-hat. She also started with a mediocre stealth score. Her target number was 7, and she couldn't use magic for it.

By comparison, the rest of the team had skill target numbers of: 15, 14, 12, and 11.

Trixie was not only the sole PC to succeed the test, but had rolled a 3, which is a critical success in GURPS. The GM had to take a moment to process that result. :D
Toric 16th Jun 2015, 6:21 AM edit delete reply
Well of course. A magician as Great and Powerful as Trixie is not seen by her audience until she allows it!

A while back I was playing a campaign so far off the rails of ridiculous that you couldn't even see rationality from where we were. Earlier in that campaign, however, we were only mildly broken. Anyway, I had a half-elf rogue with a low STR. Someone else in the group was a barbarian dwarf vampire with 4 arms. Yeah. Anyway, he was arm-wrestling the other members of the group and beating them so badly that there were craters where they were slammed. So my half-elf steps up for kicks and giggles and we roll opposing STR checks. I roll high, he rolls low, and the result is the character with the lowest STR beats the highest STR badly enough to give him his own crater.
ANW 16th Jun 2015, 9:35 AM edit delete reply
That had to hurt.
Albedoequals1 16th Jun 2015, 7:53 AM edit delete reply
I ran a game where the PCs ended up on a ship during a storm with all the crew dead. I had them make strength checks to steer the ship back on course. The mighty fighter failed, so the the rogue tried - using profession: sailor as a bonus - and also failed. The dwarf wizard with rather untypically large STR was next, but she failed too. Finally, the cleric tries. He had been saving up luck all game so far, doing things like falling down stairs, taking dragon spit to the face and otherwise failing every dice roll he could. He rolls a 20 on the d20, the only roll that would have succeeded, and muscles the ship back on course.

The other players got the last laugh though. When he beached the ship, the bump of hitting the shore caused him to fall right off the boat (acrobatics fail) where he immediately started drowning (critical swim fail). The rogue had to grab him with her whip.
Digo 16th Jun 2015, 9:10 AM edit delete reply
If luck works that way, then I should have another decent bonus coming to me soon. :D
Boris Carlot 16th Jun 2015, 9:56 AM edit delete reply
I gave my Barbarian Elf character a point in Knowledge (Arcana) just so that I could occasionally outscore the party wizard on checks. Happily, it paid off within the first two sessions.
Srgt.Grif 20th Jun 2015, 11:26 AM edit delete reply
In the same vein, I had an Half-Orc barbarian regularly beating the party's wizard in arcana checks in the 5th ed. playtest. The DM started giving me Disadvantage on the checks, and i was STILL pulling off successful arcana over the wizard. I had a 12 INT.
We've All Been There 16th Jun 2015, 12:59 PM edit delete reply
Feh. I once had a dwarf barbarian with an outstanding Constitution who kept losing drinking contests due to bad rolls.

That was disappointing.

Another time, in a large online RPG community, I elected to play a fighter with no real weaponry or armor. He was just a pugilist -- took the Improved Unarmed Combat feat. The goal was to simply have someone tough and resourceful to wander around town solving problems. He would have been amazing in bar fights.

You know... an actual tough-guy character as opposed to an adventurer. I knew there were GMs on the site up to the challenge of throwing together some noir style storylines.

Unfortunately, the first GM to get his hands on the guy threw him into an arena against a gladiatorial champion who just happened to also have Improved Unarmed Combat and was 2 levels higher. Because, hey, my character needed to be challenged.

Right. I don't think he even made it to the third round. It was a short and embarrassing fight, but he did eventually get involved in some local mysteries. He was more fun to play after that.

OOH! Then there was the half-elf fighter with high agility and focused on stealthy combat with a good, non-armor based AC. He was also challenged to a non-lethal combat as part of some fall festival event.

He lost initiative and was clonked with a critical on the first round. Out cold, even though he otherwise had a solid reputation as a solid hit-man with more than one thief's guild.
Digo 16th Jun 2015, 6:33 PM edit delete reply
There's Doc, who despite having an excellent medicine skill did a lot more damage to patients than healing them. ^^;
Raxon 16th Jun 2015, 1:20 PM edit delete reply
Let me tell you about a bard. Now this bard had the spell Fear. Fear is only a mildly useful spell, but we found a use for it. We determined the somatic component was to creep up behind the target, and the verbal component was to hum the jaws theme.

DM ruled that for something like that, we need to make stealth rolls to avoid being seen. Bard, bright colors, and stealth. Pick two.

The bard succeeded anyway, and created a domino effect when the panicked guard slammed into a wedding procession coming up some stairs. Good times.
Freelance 16th Jun 2015, 4:46 PM edit delete reply
This goes to my Halfling swashbuckler in DnD 3.5. Late in the campaign we came a across a red dragon who was preparing to pass on, and our party was essentially recruited to make sure he wasn't disturbed by his... possible next-in-line dragons--a black, a gold, and one other that I can't remember.

The gold had levels in this dragon exclusive prestige that at level 10 he'd essentially become a demigod, and eating the red dragon's heart while still fresh was an ingredient to that next level. The thing is that he was so crazy he was almost sane again, HIGHLY charismatic, and was essentially the master of a cult (since, you know, almost a demigod by now).

His diplomacy was redonkulous. Even with all the points and some equipment bonuses, I had the highest diplomacy in the party, and he still had something like eight, ten, points more than I. Three rolls. If he beat me by five or less per roll, that roll would be considered a tie.

I. Won. All. Three. He was so surprised that he tried to recruit me. I turned him down, thanking him for the honor. Still, Lady Luck was with me then.
Jennifer 16th Jun 2015, 5:36 PM edit delete reply
One man I correspond with online about Warhammer 40K (OK, not an RPG, but bear with me) once defeated a Space Wolf Blood Claw.

With a Ratling.

In close combat.

In 2nd edition.

This is not especially difficult today, but back then Blood Claws were THE premiere 40K CC unit, and Ratlings were hobbits with sniper rifles (OK, that they still are). Under the highly complex combat rules of the time, this required the Blood Claw player to roll somewhere around four ones, and the Ratling player to roll the same number of sixes... He converted the Ratling to wear its captured Space Wolf helmet, and I believe he still owns it even though he hasn't played Imperial Guard in nearly two decades.
Disloyal Subject 17th Jun 2015, 5:22 PM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
...whoa. The Emperor protects.
Always nice to see the Space Wolves' forces knocked down a peg.
The Old One 17th Jun 2015, 9:35 PM edit delete reply
In a smaller game, I was in a fight with my Tau vs vanilla marines. The other guy had fielded a librarian and he had blitzed my Battlesuit Commander. Tau in close combat is usually garbage, but tying up a commander is tying up a commander and I had a couple of shield drones to soak up hits.

Damned if the Librarian didn't get flattened by the shield drones
Mykin 17th Jun 2015, 4:21 AM edit delete reply
In "They Be Goblins", my Goblin Cleric outright stomped everyone else in the hide and seek game despite having the lowest stealth bonus out of everyone there (including the rogue of the group). I rolled a natural 20 so it was deemed that he just vanished into thin air, ninjutsu-style. All the high perception people couldn't find him with their high perception rolls so he won a ring of climbing really good after a few hours of standing in plain sight.

Inversely, I have a habit of making perception/spot one of my priorities in the skill list. So it's always funny when the guy with a -2 to his perception spots the badly hidden bandits while my fighter with a +13 seems oblivious to everything except for how shiny his boots are. It's one of those things that happens a lot with me. Stupid dice.
Digo 16th Jun 2015, 6:04 AM edit delete reply
Uh, what sort of complication? The power company can't get over there to flip the switch? O.o

Tell a story about success despite your character not having the right skills/attributes for the job!
Toric 16th Jun 2015, 6:12 AM edit delete reply
I was playing a homebrew of Star Trek and our ship was under attack by what I believe were Romulans. We repelled the boarders, but our engineer and one of our players working as a spy had been blown up and were unstable and dying. The ship doctor and my character, a MACO soldier, ran to the scene. Both characters were on the edge of death and the doctor only had time to treat one of them. My soldier, with a total bonus of +1 on Heal checks took the other. I got a small bonus from the doctor being there to shout directions at me, but I was facing a tall order to save the player. Luckily, a Nat 20 showed up just in time to save the player's character. Despite missing an arm, a leg, and part of her skull, the agent pulled through.
Digo 16th Jun 2015, 6:15 AM edit delete reply
Huzzah! That was the perfect time for a 20 to show up. Awesome story!
Dragonflight 16th Jun 2015, 7:31 PM edit delete reply
Reminds me of a Star Trek game I actually wasn't in. The others were being chased by Klingons down a corridor in a TOS era colony installation. They reach a specific door, dash inside, and lock it. Moments later, the Klingons (who have all failed their INT check to know where the PC's are right now,) demand the players throw out their weapons and surrender.

The PC's, always ones to further the cause of interstellar diplomacy, open the armory door a crack and toss out a live photon grenade...
Digo 17th Jun 2015, 5:11 AM edit delete reply
*Snerk* Well that's technically following demands. :3
Disloyal Subject 17th Jun 2015, 5:38 PM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
Fire-team: "Time to go shopping!"
Ophilia: "Woo! I have a list and everything.
"Hmm... I can't afford all this at the moment. I probably won't need anti-tank grenades anytime soon, so I should stock up on specialist ammunition for my sidearms."

<a couple days later>

Giant robot: "Atomantic Reactor online. Motive system damaged. Targeting systems damaged. Armor compromised. Scanning. Victims spotted. Castellax Battle Automata moving forward."
Fire-team: PANIC

Unloading our heaviest guns into an unarmored point was effective, but ticked it off. The four of us who DIDN'T freak out and run away from its countersalvo found ourselves at a disadvantage as it ignored our remaining firepower and started punching things. The old man was knocked out quickly by a shockwave, while our other ex-soldier only barely survived a direct hit from a punch even with the armor bonus for it hitting his cybernetic arm, and his unconscious body was still knocked over 10 meters away to slide on his back. Setting it on fire did zero damage and only made it scarier, and all our shaped charges were on the unconscious guys, but luckily the thug had some high explosives left. They worked, but we barely escaped the blast radius with our wounded.

The moral of the story? Picking up some expendable anti-armor weaponry is well worth having fewer backup options for how to kill with your concealed emergency-only backup weapons.
ANW 16th Jun 2015, 6:33 AM edit delete reply
On come on.
You guys took away my contest ideas.
I'll come up with something by Thursday.
So here's a survey I've been thinking about.
As you guys already know, Fluttershy has a gift for animals.
To the point that she tamed a manticore.
And we know she gets very excited about helping other ponies with pets.
She even gave a heart-song about it.
So what type of pet would you like Fluttershy to give you?
It can not be anything bigger than yourself, nor a horse(cause that would be awkward to ask her)
Me: A wolf cub.
aylatrigger 16th Jun 2015, 7:55 AM edit delete reply
Not being anything bigger than self limits it quite a bit...

For me, Fishing Cat, Sand Cat, or tiger cub... Really any big cat. But I would need Fluttershy to help train them...
ANW 16th Jun 2015, 8:05 AM edit delete reply
I've been wondering for a while, what is Ponyfinder?
Specter 16th Jun 2015, 8:17 AM edit delete reply
Ponyfinder is a supplement book for pathfinder that, essentially, includes animals as PC's. It does not solely include ponies, as it also holds pony variants, some other equines, and some "household" like animals (Ex: K9, Feline).

An example campaign...

As for the survey, I wanted to say wolf (dang it), but instead I'll go for a pseudo-dragon. Cause they are adorable.
AnonymousUserTheOnly 16th Jun 2015, 8:04 AM edit delete reply
To be honest, i'd let her pick one for me. She seems to know exactly what someone might think.

'Course, if I HAD to pick without her help, i'd go with the easy one to keep alive. A Timberwolf. Seriously, just plant trees and the Timberwolf will be happy.
ANW 16th Jun 2015, 9:32 AM edit delete reply
Even Fluttershy can't tame Timberwolves.
Digo 16th Jun 2015, 9:14 AM edit delete reply
A rock, cause I really don't want the responsibility of a pet right now. It may not live past a week. :/
Winged Cat 16th Jun 2015, 10:11 AM edit delete reply
So she'd outsource it to Maud? (Once Pinkie's family is introduced.)

As for the survey - any pet she can tame, that's smaller than herself, and not a horse/pony/etc.? She can't give a baby dragon, or other sentient (or will-soon-be-sentient like many babies are) pet, right?
Digo 16th Jun 2015, 10:19 AM edit delete reply
If not outsourced, my daughter may get a hold of the pet rock and repaint it with a color scheme not found in nature. :3
ANW 16th Jun 2015, 10:37 AM edit delete reply
Pretty much.
But I mean smaller than you, not her.
Sani2341 17th Jun 2015, 5:53 AM edit delete reply
would a warpwolf count as smaller than me, if it´s human form was smaller then me? if yes I would take a tamed warpwolf, if not, a nice Winter Argus(think wolf with two heads that can spit ice)
Ponikon 17th Jun 2015, 7:02 AM edit delete reply
I really doubt she'd give anyone a wolf. I mean, come the hell on.

It's just that you want to be edgy, and as such want one as your pet.
The MunchKING 17th Jun 2015, 6:42 PM edit delete reply
The MunchKING
Thank her, but tell her I'm happy with the Chocobos I've already got.

Maybe offer her one of their eggs if she'd like it.
Toric 16th Jun 2015, 7:26 AM edit delete reply
Really digging that last panel. It looks like Twilight's player is scrutinizing her sheet as well as glaring at Rainbow.
Specter 16th Jun 2015, 8:24 AM edit delete reply
Sorry for your electricity troubles Spud, I hope it gets better soon.

... I also rolled a d6, and my total came up as 6. Woops
ksclaw 16th Jun 2015, 9:51 AM edit delete reply
Asking this as a complete noob when it comes to these games, can you make your skills better when joining in events like these? Or is that only in videogames?
Boris Carlot 16th Jun 2015, 10:04 AM edit delete reply
Not as such. The DM may grant temporary bonuses/penalties depending on the circumstances, though. These are temporary and usually up to the discretion of the DM.

For example, if your character's totally clueless about geography but has access to a map and compass, that might boost his score. If your character is trying to lie to someone that really wants to believe you, you're telling a credible lie and you've got someone the other guy trusts backing you up, you might get a big bonus to your score. Of course, the DM might also apply circumstantial penalties to your score too. That's why RD doesn't get to apply her cutie mark bonus to the Running of the Leaves, for example.

The DM might also choose to raise/lower the score required to pass the check based on circumstances. Breaking down a wall might need the player to get a score of 35 or higher to pass. If they have big hammers, maybe they only need 25. If they have explosives, maybe they only need 20 to pass.
Toric 16th Jun 2015, 11:59 AM edit delete reply
The other way is simply by leveling up and gaining more gear. You have limited resources to invest in your skills/equipment, and certain investments are definitely typed to certain base classes. A wizard could theoretically devote a lot of skill points to being athletic, but odds are it would be more useful for them to invest in magicky skills. You can only really bump things like that in long-term investments that you can't take back later, except for the circumstantial stuff offered by Boris.
Disloyal Subject 17th Jun 2015, 7:48 PM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
To summarize - while you can get better, it won't be by doing the same things you want to improve at. This isn't Elder Scrolls. Rather, you get better by spending points on things as you advance; details beyond that vary by system - D&D gives you upgrades every time you level up by passing thresholds of experience point totals, while other systems might have you spend XP directly to purchase upgrades. These girls are playing D&D 4e, so I believe their trained skills go up by a bit when they level - I never learned the system.
j-eagle12212012 16th Jun 2015, 10:16 AM edit delete reply
so I guess I have to wait till Thursday to do my spoiler free review...

How about E3 stuff

Fallout 4 is going to be freaking awsome it looks so cool ohmygoshohmygoshohmygosh /)^_^(\

Shenmue 3 was announced about time

The last guardian was re-announced

XBox one will have backwards compatiability

And they announced a remake of Final Fantasy 7 for the nextgen consoles...after 18 years they are finally doing it The best FF imo
Digo 16th Jun 2015, 10:21 AM edit delete reply
I'm excited for Fallout 4, but don't have any interest in the other games mentioned. I like the concept in FO4 of building your own settlement and drawing in population.
j-eagle12212012 16th Jun 2015, 6:05 PM edit delete reply
I think that is the coolest thing, so many people are going to play it and do just that and nothing else. I am also waiting to play the free mobile game Fallout Shelter when they release it on android devices and I am going to pre-order the Pip-boy collection because you get your very own pip-boy ( $120 for that edition)
Mykin 17th Jun 2015, 4:07 AM edit delete reply
I don't know if I want to pay $120 for a pipboy, since I'd only use it for my NCR Ranger cosplay that I'm still debating on making, but the game does look pretty cool.

I like the idea of weapon customization and such. I've never been a fan of any of the power armors in the game, but this one might actually have a design that I don't mind wearing for once. Still won't change my hope for a mod that will port over the NCR Ranger armor over so I can wear that all the time though.

Not sure how I feel about the story, though. The reason I like Fallout: NV better than Fallout 3 (outside of the fact that I can navigate through the map easier, the game doesn't crash every 5 seconds for random reasons, no stupid percentage skill checks, etc) is because it actually had a story I could invest in. I liked the idea that I wasn't a Stable Dweller right off the bat and I could just pretend to be whatever the heck I wanted with my courier. This?...I'm not sure I like the idea of starting out in the past and ending up in the future or on our character actually having a voice. But I'll wait and see if they can actually pull it off before I start poking holes into it.

As for the rest of E3, I'm going to have to go back and actually watch it since I've been stuck working/sleeping during it all. Though the idea that The Last Guardian has been re-announced is funny to me. How many years has it been since the last time they announced it? I honestly hope it doesn't turn into a Duke Nukem Forever situation.
Digo 17th Jun 2015, 5:18 AM edit delete reply
I like the concept of being a Stable Dweller (haha, can you tell we're so influenced by pony?) so FO3's story line is alright. I more complain that most of the factions are pretty 1-dimensional. Thus FO4 has my curiosity, particularly the point about being the sole survivor of Vault 111 (I wonder if despite having a choice of either being the man or woman, the other still plays a role throughout?). But hey, the concept of building your own town is neat to my ears!

I think the Duke Nukem Forever successor has always been Half-Life 2 Episode 3.
Mykin 17th Jun 2015, 9:03 AM edit delete reply
...*Facepalm* I've been writing an FO:E fan fic for the last couple of weeks and been neck deep in research for said story. I knew it was a matter of time before it seeped out when I finally start talking about Fallout proper.

Anyway, I agree with your points. The building system seems like a gimmick to me, but I always reserve judgement on such things until I actually get my hands on the system itself. Though I hope that I can actually build my town underground (or, barring that, under a freeway overpass).

And yeah, we have been waiting for HL3 for a while now, haven't we?
DoubleCross 17th Jun 2015, 12:39 PM edit delete reply
Is anybody else as interested in Dreams as I am? Collaborative 3D animation, built as if you're painting it into existence...
Mykin 17th Jun 2015, 3:17 PM edit delete reply
It is really interesting, but I don't own a PS4 so that kinda kills it for me. Hopefully it succeeds in what it's trying to achieve, though. It would be nice to see more games like that coming out of the woodwork at events like E3.
Disloyal Subject 17th Jun 2015, 7:42 PM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
Oh, good. I've been waiting for a remake of FF VII to get into the franchise.

Being without a console or computer, I'm still looking forward to playing games that long since came out, but the trailer for the new Star Wars Battlefront reduced me to giddy squealing.
Guest 16th Jun 2015, 10:35 AM edit delete reply
the Ballad of the Noob.
Other Guest 16th Jun 2015, 10:41 AM edit delete reply
I can't believe Ms. Harshwhinny is Trixie's mom! Oh wait, it's not Thursday. Never mind.
Disloyal Subject 16th Jun 2015, 11:06 AM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
Perversely, that would make some amount of sense. It would certainly be a convincing explanation for Trixie's competitive, stuck-up tendencies.
Toric 16th Jun 2015, 12:02 PM edit delete reply
True, but it would also make plenty of/absolutely no sense explaining her general attitude. She could have turned to show-boating as rebellion, but Harshwhinny seems the type to control and discipline upstart foals. Also, linguistically they don't really line up with similar accents, speech patterns, or even schools of thought in their respective lines.
Disloyal Subject 17th Jun 2015, 6:24 PM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
"Also, linguistically they don't really line up with similar accents, speech patterns, or even schools of thought in their respective lines."
Ahem... Rarity.
Showboating could also be born of an inferiority complex from falling short of parents' high standards.
Digo 16th Jun 2015, 11:09 AM edit delete reply
I wish it was Thursday. That would mean it's Friday.
Specter 16th Jun 2015, 12:35 PM edit delete reply
I'm going to have to remember to read absolutely no comments on Thursday (or any other day till the season is on Netflix) so I don't read a spoiler, right?
j-eagle12212012 16th Jun 2015, 5:59 PM edit delete reply
You can read my *spoiler free* review on thursday . I always keep it cryptic and try to be humourus and witty, although there are no garentees that others won't post spoilers in response.
Masterweaver 16th Jun 2015, 7:04 PM edit delete reply
I once wrote Flim and Flam as being her uncles. This is one... <i>interesting</i> family.
EEK 16th Jun 2015, 12:46 PM edit delete reply
Thursday can't come fast enough
Mykin 17th Jun 2015, 3:21 PM edit delete reply
If it makes you feel any better, Spud, I just found out that I might have to replace the engine to my car after one of my tires snapped in half. I have to bum a ride with my dad in his car which is also on its last legs until Friday, when I have to spend my entire paycheck getting my car to a point where I can get by with it. Until I can afford a new car...maybe...