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Newbiespud 8th Dec 2016, 5:00 AM edit delete
And that's Pinkie Pride!

If the first six panels look familiar or even retro, that's because they're the stills I took the original character sheet portraits from all those years ago. The episode files I had at the time used a different color balance, and I've also had a hard drive failure and new computer since then, so I needed to get new screencaps if I wanted to use the same portraits on the new sheets, and then I figured, "Hey..."

The character sheets themselves are done (finally) - I even made ones for Gilda and Cheese Sandwich - but the neat little cards for the Cast page are not done yet. That's a day's work in and of itself, and I got right up to the line already reaching the end of this arc. I'll get those up tomorrow, hopefully.

It looks like there might be a small guest arc between this and the next storyline. And why not? I could use a Winter Break.

Next up: Sonic Rainboom!

Notice: Guest comic submissions are open! Guidelines here. Deadline: January 27th, 2023.



Vegetalss4 8th Dec 2016, 5:15 AM edit delete reply
So, um, I don't rally know how to best say this, but according to google 110 ft in 6 seconds equals 12.5 miles per hour, not 4.
Digo Dragon 8th Dec 2016, 5:47 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
My calculator seems to agree. Though 12.5 mph is not hard for a human to make. Must be all that loot they're carrying in D&D ;)
Syrael 8th Dec 2016, 5:53 AM edit delete reply
I think that its considered a 'hustle' speed as opposed to outright running.
RileaSW 8th Dec 2016, 6:31 AM edit delete reply
1) 110 feet per 6seconds does come out to 12.5 MPH.
2) Combat speed is 'Hustle'. Flat out running in D&D I believe is Base Speed x4. x5 if she has the Run feat (not sure if that's a thing in 4th)
3) According to the previous point: Rainbow Dash has a Running Speed of 25 MPH. 31.25 MPH if she's got the aforementioned feat.
Vegetalss4 8th Dec 2016, 6:58 AM edit delete reply
You're thinking of 3rd edition DnD.
In 4th, running at full speed only gives you +10ft per movement action you spend.
So in Dash's case that would bring her up to 130 ft a round, i.e 14.77 miles/hour in america, or 23.77 km/h in non-american.
For comparison when i asked google how fast the average human can run the answer was 15 miles/hour.
DC 8th Dec 2016, 6:33 AM edit delete reply
Can we have any of that in actual units people use? :^)

Sarcasm aside, that's 20.115km/h for the rest of the world. As in, about four times as fast as walking.
Wyrdsmith 8th Dec 2016, 6:43 AM edit delete reply
That is correct - in 4e a run would add an extra 2 squares of movement to that double move, so another 10 feet putting dash up to around 13.6 mph. If this were 3.X, that run would in fact be a x4 modifier to the base speed (in light or medium encumbrance), moving up to around 25 mph, and with the run feat, x5 or about 30.7 mph. Which is actually pretty fast for a human - Usain Bolt clocks in at 27.8 mph, and in the upper end of a horse's average top speed.
Anvildude 8th Dec 2016, 8:13 AM edit delete reply
Are there any modifiers for Quadrupeds, though? I know being quadrupedal in 3.5 gave you some silly bonuses to your carrying capacities.
Newbiespud 8th Dec 2016, 8:46 AM edit delete reply

I did the conversion in two parts. First was dividing the feet by the seconds. Then I converted that to mph. Problem is, apparently when you divide feet by seconds in Google, the answer it spits out is in meters per second.

<sigh> As your collective reward for catching the blunder I didn't (and nearly giving me an aneurysm when I woke up this morning), this bad math is now canon.
Digo Dragon 8th Dec 2016, 9:53 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Yay- ...wait a minute.
aerion111 10th Dec 2016, 12:03 AM edit delete reply
Ah, I was WONDERING where the 4.5 came from; Messing around with a calculator (after figuring out how many feet are in a mile, since it's not a sensible base-10 system like Metric) didn't let me see any obvious mistakes that'd lead to 4.5.
Digo Dragon 8th Dec 2016, 9:50 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
In 3.5 quads get a bonus to carry, but not to speed.
Dragonflight 8th Dec 2016, 1:34 PM edit delete reply
Okay. 22 km/hr works out to 6.22 m/s, give or take a few decimal places. That works out to 20ft/s, for those of you who still measure from the tip of your nose to your outstretched finger. (I kid you not, that's how the yard was invented. It's also why measurements were so inefficient in the middle ages. Every lord had their own version of the official "yard", depending on how long the string was from the tip of their nose to the end of their fingertips.)

Anyway, humour aside, you're looking at a speed a human could probably achieve for short distances. Horses run faster than humans in the short term, so could probably achieve that sort of speed with a bit of work.

But it's another order of magnitude to achieve 340m/s, or roughly 1,116ft/s to break the sound barrier. Rainbow's really going to have to step up her game somehow to pull off a rainboom...
Dragonflight 8th Dec 2016, 1:42 PM edit delete reply
As taken from the Wiki page:

William of Malmesbury's Deeds of the Kings of England records that during the reign of Henry I "the measure of his arm was applied to correct the false ell of the traders and enjoined on all throughout England."[14] The folktale that the length was bounded by the king's nose[15] was added some centuries later. Watson dismisses William's account as "childish"[16] but William was among the most conscientious and trustworthy medieval historians,[17] the French "king's foot" was supposed to have derived from Charlemagne,[17] and the English kings subsequently repeatedly intervened to impose shorter units with the aim of increasing tax revenue.
Guest 8th Dec 2016, 8:50 PM edit delete reply
So.... uhhh... why is everyone talking about 110 feet in 6 seconds? Did the Spud change the comic and replace it with 130 ft in 6 seconds? Uhmmm... and for future reference, Spud, if you're lazy, you can make google do the math conversion for you. Instead of typing "x ft/y seconds", in which case Google will choose its preferred standard of measurement (m/s, it is the preferred SI measurement after all), type "x ft/y seconds to mph"
Digo Dragon 9th Dec 2016, 7:45 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
To answer the first Q--yes.
Aohaku 9th Dec 2016, 12:08 PM edit delete reply
I suppose RD could use an action point to triple move, so up to 18ish mph, but as a previous poster said, I'm not sure how she'll break the sound barrier. A properly twinked 5e tabaxi can do it easily, but 4e's more difficult to break, especially at lower levels. Maybe if she could figure out a way to use her minor action to move (Monk might have something for that) and chugged, like, all the Potions of Speed (which don't normally stack, but this DM might rule they do with a mishap or something)...
Specter 8th Dec 2016, 5:36 AM edit delete reply
I wonder, if this gets as big as I think it might become, will Gilda/Cheese also get a potential ticket?

... I'm going to go find my helmet.
Errick 8th Dec 2016, 6:27 AM edit delete reply
Is it wrong that I half-expected Twilight to end up an alicorn after optimizing her character and all?
Winged Cat 8th Dec 2016, 10:25 AM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Nah. But alicornhood is some levels off. They're only 9th, still. Arguably, alicornhood is an epic destiny, and thus doesn't kick in until level 21.
Zatch P 9th Dec 2016, 10:05 AM edit delete reply
Actually, there are several Paragon Paths that grant flight. Most are temporary, but there are several 12th level powers that allow some flight and, at 16th level, some outright 'you've got wings and can fly now' things. The Avenger's Favored Soul seems to be one of the best fitting for Twilight, since at level 16 you just get feathered wings with fly speed 6. Almost everything else with flight gets it as temporary powers or Overland Flight, which is obviously not the case for Twilight.

Obviously Twilight isn't an Avenger, but you might be able to make a case for houseruling it thanks to Celestia's favor and the Element of Magic. Or just take it as a base for an Alicorn homemade paragon path. Point is, flight is thing that can happen at 16th level, and there's also some good flight utility powers at level 12. Scion of Arkosia gives Dragon Wings, an at will 'fly your speed, then land' move power. Storm Disciple gives Stormwalker, an encounter minor action power that gives a flight speed equal to your speed and hover, until you're hit or the end of the encounter.

Flight alone does not an Epic Destiny make, and becoming an Alicorn doesn't seem that powerful itself. For a homemade Alicorn class, I'd say it should have three 11th level boosts (representing the two new types of magic and the increase in the kind you had), a 12th level utility power offering a decent flight power like the two above, 16th level giving full flight (and maybe a different utility power to replace the now redundant 12th level one), 20th level granting the standard really powerful attack. Not more powerful than most Paragon Paths, and honestly it seems in line with what we'd expect of Twilight or Cadence as Alicorns. Celestia and Luna are much stronger, but then they'd be Epic, so you'd expect that.
Dragonflight 8th Dec 2016, 1:26 PM edit delete reply
I keep thinking about Ponyfinder, and how a Unification-bloodline unicorn sorceress could pick up a racial bloodline-based powerup at a measly level 4, and become, for all intents and purposes, a baby alicorn right at the beginning of the game. :)
ANW 8th Dec 2016, 6:32 AM edit delete reply
So in a race, she still can't beat a bunny rabbit.
Classic Steve 8th Dec 2016, 8:26 AM edit delete reply
Unless the rabbit stops for a nap, like in that fable.
JennyDracos 9th Dec 2016, 8:10 AM edit delete reply
Or like when they tried it on a Japanese (I think) variety show. Just like in the fable, the turtle muscled on down the track to the lettuce; the rabbit zoomed out the gate, but was a lot more freaked out by all the big meat-eating creatures around it and stopped halfway down the track to lay low and hope everyone went away.
NexAngelus405 8th Dec 2016, 7:33 AM edit delete reply

Also, here is info on the introductory premade campaign for it.
Anvildude 8th Dec 2016, 8:14 AM edit delete reply
I mean, Hasbro _does_ own the DnD property. I guess it was only a matter of time, after they started having things like Manticores and Dragons in the setting...
Newbiespud 8th Dec 2016, 8:57 AM edit delete reply
I'm actually really interested in Tails of Equestria. I really want to see what they do with it and how it'll turn out. If only the details out there said more about how the system will actually play.

We know that it's going to be primarily d6 based, which is usually a sign that a system's aiming less for your usual high (and high-fidelity) adventure and more towards a simpler storytelling flow, possibly aimed at a younger audience. Which makes 100% sense given it's going to be an official Hasbro product.
You know that guy 8th Dec 2016, 10:25 AM edit delete reply
A d6 has much less randomness and high fantasy than a d20, but I don't think it's fair to call it less realistic. Any single-die system will be less realistic for most tests than a similar multi-die system.
You know that guy 8th Dec 2016, 10:27 AM edit delete reply
Which is good, because you didn't use the word "realism" in your post.
Why did I ...
Mykin 8th Dec 2016, 1:02 PM edit delete reply
Oh yeah, I remember this thing. Completely forgot about it while I was working on my contribution to the Roan rpg system.

Like Spud, I'm really interested in seeing how the system will actually play once it comes out. For some odd reason, I find myself wondering if the game will turn out to be similar to the Golden Sky Stories RPG. Probably not, given what we know about Tails and how a typical session of GSS tends to play out, but they are roughly around the same tone and both are aimed at a younger audience, so I guess we'll see.
aylatrigger 8th Dec 2016, 8:37 AM edit delete reply
Whoa, that is slow...

At least, compared to the Ponyfinder speedsters in my games... Our current game has a 10th level speedster who went 600 ft in a round, and that was short because she had to go into a curve...
Newbiespud 8th Dec 2016, 9:02 AM edit delete reply
That's my entire experience with 3.5 and Pathfinder... Every concept in the game is breakable and "physics" is not so much a "law" as "that thing curled up in the corner of the room, sobbing."
Digo Dragon 8th Dec 2016, 9:57 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Recently I got to experience a local session. With actual tables and paper character sheets.

The GM used 3.5, but he wanted it Core Only. It's been some years since I touched 3.5, and that was mostly from a DM's perspective, so as I look at the core only bits... I can't help but think how much better the system is with less. XD

Less optimization worry, less game-breaking combos, less bad feat pitfalls...
ChaosStar0 8th Dec 2016, 10:30 AM edit delete reply
More cookiecutter builds if you only have one high stat that doesn't have many feats associated with it. Personally I prefer having two stats at 13-14 than one stat at 18.
Malroth 8th Dec 2016, 1:36 PM edit delete reply
Anyone who is familiar with the ins and outs of 3.5 will tell you the first tennat of the optimization boards. "The least balanced book is th PHB". The most powerful abilities printed, Gate, Shapechange, Simulacrum, Genesis is in the same book as a class that takes 20 levels to inaffectively punch things and 2 classes with no features after first level (rogue and fighter).
Rathonje 8th Dec 2016, 5:21 PM edit delete reply
Genesis isn't in the player's handbook. You'll want the Epic Level Handbook for that. Now, Astral Projection, Disjunction, Teleportation Circle, and Time Stop, on the other hand...

I love 3.5, but a party built using only base classes from outside the PHB is much more likely to be balanced than one using only classes inside it.
Digo Dragon 9th Dec 2016, 7:51 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
At the same time though, most unbalanced combos need books outside the PHB to work. And those books didn't do anything to fix monk and fighter while they poured more and more delicious spells for spellcasters to just be that much more awesome.

It's easier to just take the phb alone and ban the problematic high level spells.
Guest 8th Dec 2016, 10:43 AM edit delete reply
Skeletal young sky dragons. They can be created with a 3rd level spell cast by a 5th level wizard. Skeletons of creatues that fly without wings keep their fly speed.

Of 200'.

Running full out while carrying a rider (they're large size, so you can ride them, possibly inside their rib cage if you can't find a saddle), that's 800' per 6 seconds, or about 90 mph.

Which they can keep up forever because undead are immune to fatigue.
terrycloth 8th Dec 2016, 10:46 AM edit delete reply
Ah, sorry. 3rd level cleric. A 3rd level wizard would need a scroll.
Continue 8th Dec 2016, 4:08 PM edit delete reply
Silly Song ROUND TWO!
nathan400 8th Dec 2016, 6:45 PM edit delete reply
So, Deathbattle is pitting Deadpool vs. Pinkie Pie. Seriously.
redwings1340 9th Dec 2016, 11:39 AM edit delete reply
lol, that's cool. My bet's on Deadpool though. Pinkie Pie, for all her strengths, isn't that powerful in a one on one fight. Her only chance would be luring Deadpool in a trap, but Deadpool would see it coming, and Pinkie Pie doesn't have any sort of super strength or super combat abilities.
Aohaku 9th Dec 2016, 12:17 PM edit delete reply
They might pull on the alternate timeline Pinkie that could jackhammer a rock to pieces as it rolled down a hill. Never know what they'll use.
Super Kami Guru 10th Dec 2016, 2:31 AM edit delete reply
If I had to make a wager, it's gonna end up being a fight more about wallbreaking then anything but that's for us to find out I suppose.
Rastaba 9th Dec 2016, 7:59 PM edit delete reply
Here is the thing I don't get. Why is everyone so focused on her run speed when Rainbow Dash rarely RUNS anywhere? She's usually flying. I don't know if that's the same basic speed as running but I'd think there is some difference.

Also, I am going to hide behind Specter and their helmet. This party sounds like it's gonna be epic.