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12th Oct 2017, 6:00 AM in The Best Night Ever, Part 1
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Immodest Proposal
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Newbiespud 12th Oct 2017, 6:00 AM edit delete
I have gotten entirely too much mileage out of a sequence that lasts only 12 seconds in the actual episode. (I counted.)

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Masterweaver 12th Oct 2017, 6:06 AM edit delete reply
"I love you, so I'm going to take away the job and home you've had all your life."

Yep, sounds legit.
emmerlaus 12th Oct 2017, 6:25 AM edit delete reply
A job can get in a way of a relationship.

Althought it was thoughtless and egocentric of him to choose for her like this, it IS true that Rarity climbed in popularity AND in became much more high profile then a rogue should be.

My guess is that he is one who don't consider love as being important it a wedding setting. COnsiderig how he is good looking and a prince, he must be looking in a potential wife for practical reasons rather then love. Althought Rarity dont have contacts in Nobility, I can see why it's a plus for him as it mean she don't have a plan to supplant the Blueblood family by marrying him.

So yeah, my guess is he did that to her because one, she had become the focus of attention by becoming a local celebrity. Two, he was hoping she would use her Dainty Dove and her skills to get to him. He is a control freak who don't want to marry a party who is stronger then him in INFLUENCE. Someone he can trust to join the Blueblood family without any other motive then maybe having a confortable life for herself.

If she had moped and chosen to be mediocre, then he would have stepped down as it meant he "misjudged her" instead of admitting what he did was wrong.

Don't forget its just a theory guys though. Im probably not right on this one XD

Digo Dragon 12th Oct 2017, 8:07 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
A relationship can get in the way of a job. ;)

I can totally buy that Elusive wants to be with Rarity just to sponge off some of that fame, and perhaps accompanying fortune that Rarity would acquire for being a celebrity hero (with her own clothing line).
Tel 12th Oct 2017, 6:53 AM edit delete reply
DM has been watching "You've Got Mail," maybe?

... and now I'm hearing him deliver the lines in Tom Hanks's voice.
The Old One 12th Oct 2017, 9:54 AM edit delete reply
I disagree.

Figure that Rarity is a young up-and-comer in the guild and catches the eye of BB. Since he's got influence, he decides to create a scenario where Rarity gets hung out to dry as a test to see if she would be a worthy companion to someone of his position (cheerfully ignoring that someone worthy would also be supremely dangerous to him).
In his mind, Rarity comes back, tries to get back in the graces, "discovers" his real identity, and is soooooo impressed by him that he sweeps her off her hooves and he has an attractive consort that can also perform tasks in his name. Winner: Blueblood

And clearly, he has never appreciated the awesome power of a mare scorned.
Boris Carlot 12th Oct 2017, 11:42 AM edit delete reply
Yeah, that would be my interpretation too. "I knew you were good enough. I just needed to *see* it."
Masterweaver 12th Oct 2017, 12:34 PM edit delete reply
So just to be clear: I was being sarcastic. I don't think this is at all a fair thing to do. If anything, I think it's monstrous.
Dusk Raven 12th Oct 2017, 10:59 PM edit delete reply
Indeed. Elusive seems to think it's somewhat romantic, but I'm sure Rarity disagrees. And frankly, screwing with somepony's life in an attempt to maneuver her into meeting him is pretty jerkass behavior.

Now, it's entirely possible that he actually couldn't be with her by normal means so he had to go through this elaborate chess game to be with her. Perhaps even Thieves Guild regulations mean that he can't be with Rarity the thief, but he can be with Dainty Dove the socialite.

Of course, I suspect Rarity's reaction to him will be severe even if he does have a good reason... given the source material Spud's drawing from.
Cliff Robotnik 13th Oct 2017, 4:35 AM edit delete reply
Okay, I'm just going to throw this out there: What if he is NOT Total Scum, and the Romantic Inclination is accidental, or otherwise Necessary?

Perhaps, for Example, he noticed a BUNCH OF CHANGELINGS replacing Guild Members, and she was kicked out to not be on the HIT LIST?

WOULD IT NOT BE a HUGE Twist if the "Great Gala Clusterfuck" Does not actually Occur in the comic, as EVERYONE'S EXPECTATIONS of how this OCCURS is based on OOC knowledge of what happens in the show?

I am throwing my hat in that, Feelings for her or Not, he Blacklisted her to keep her off the Changeling Infiltrator's Hit List(why Target non-threats?), so She, as a Element of Harmony, Can be ready to Nuke the Changelings when the time arises...

Unrelated: Still love the Idea that He's Moving Discord WAY WAY WAY up in the Timeline, just moving him up in the Timeline makes him feel that much more of a threat!
hariman 13th Oct 2017, 9:47 AM edit delete reply
Oh, oh yes. Rarity gets all she wants, and all the intrigue she wants... because Blueblood set it up, and she'll get to be HIS partner, against Celestia, and her new friends.
Archeo Lumiere 12th Oct 2017, 6:07 AM edit delete reply
Random thought, is Mary Weers going to make an attempt to influence this campaign, or is it homebrew enough for her?
Rastaba 12th Oct 2017, 6:16 AM edit delete reply
Too much fluffy roleplay, not enough hard clinical game mechanics to gut from it.
Guest 12th Oct 2017, 7:24 AM edit delete reply
There is the cutie mark critical, along with the obscene amount of worldbuilding. Spud, how long did it take GM to make this setting.

Also there's Pinkie "Natural Bard" Pie.
Archeo Lumiere 12th Oct 2017, 7:25 AM edit delete reply
^That was me
Jesin 12th Oct 2017, 5:23 PM edit delete reply
Who is "Mary Weers"?
Cyborg7221 14th Oct 2017, 8:48 AM edit delete reply
@Jesin Mary Weers is a villain from Rastaba and DeadpanSal's shared campaign comic universe (the main comics are based on Avatar: TLA and Steven Universe). Basically, her schtick is bullying GMs into giving up the IP rights to their campaigns so that she could sell them as modules without crediting the original creators one bit. Yes, it's exactly as insane as it sounds, but most readers just roll with it.
Anon 12th Oct 2017, 6:10 AM edit delete reply
Did you not already use that punchline? Or Maybe it was an author's note talking about how you wanted to use it?
ThatGuest 12th Oct 2017, 6:21 AM edit delete reply
Oh god. I get the feeling that pause doesn't mean Rarity is thinking about being able to get into such a powerful position. My money is on Rarity detonating in anger over Elusive trying to ruin her life (And her friends' by extention) in a frankly creepy plot to get her in a position where he can use mind games to make her a trophy wife or something.
emmerlaus 12th Oct 2017, 6:31 AM edit delete reply
A trophy wife. I didn't put it that way on my post above but that's quite accurate. He probably want a wife with less influence then him in power.

Do not forget because of his position, he could be targeted by assassins. I think its more question of who he can trust as a pony of influence AND not marry someone with a obvious thief background (who could be used against him later if exposed), a assasin ( for obvious reasons) or a noble (who would use him to get his own family more powers rather then truly joining the Blueblood family).

Again, its just my guess though.
Jennifer 12th Oct 2017, 8:41 AM edit delete reply
My fave fantasy series features "Companions" to the nobility - a guild of trained same-sex lover-courtesans who are also trained as assassins and spies. Makes them the perfect security, but also puts them in prime backstab position. Since the guild quietly influences the nobility, however, this happens rarely, and more usually there is genuine love (although the guild discourages that...)
offroader 12th Oct 2017, 8:42 AM edit delete reply
Why Rarity then? If he is Elusive then he can get information on every mare in Equstria. From this point of view it would be much better for him to try and court TS.
A) She's not a thief.
B) Celestia student... so a great trophy.
C) Her brother THE MAN and is courting Cadance.
D) Also an EoH

The only reason not to do that is Celestia herself if she knows that Blueblood is Elusive.
Tatsurou 12th Oct 2017, 12:10 PM edit delete reply
Twilight grew up in Canterlot, practically under Celestia's hoof, remember? Who's to say Blueblood hasn't tried courting her his way in the past for that connection, only for Celestia to put her hoof down on him for 'trying to take advantage of her student'?
Winged Cat 12th Oct 2017, 12:14 PM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Not his type. He wants mates with a certain type of cunning - which results in him only being attracted to competent mares within his organization, which results in all sorts of problems. This, at least, was an excuse to date someone outside his guild.

Not a good one, and one likely to backfire, but he may have seen it as the only way. As some say, "Evil is crippled by its own nature."
Anon 12th Oct 2017, 1:12 PM Reply edit delete reply
Except there's the major fact that Twilight is not interested in marriage or any sort of romantic relationship. Rarity is. Why would he waste time trying to court someone who is known to have little to no interest in romance when he can get someone who is and who he's also in a better position to control?
Mykin 12th Oct 2017, 7:55 AM edit delete reply
Blueblood, you know there are less convoluted, cynical, mean-spirited easier ways of getting to this point, right? I mean, there is no way I can see this ending the way you want it to end. And that's taking into account that you manage to somehow talk your way into making Rarity accept all of the crap you've pulled on her up until now.

Still, it'll be entertaining to watch you try and I'm anxiously waiting for the comic where Fluttershy attacks you with all of her woodland creature friends as payback for what you've done.
offroader 12th Oct 2017, 8:50 AM edit delete reply
Technically the only CRAP he pulled on her is suspended as a thieve. If we throw away GM just waiting to spring it on them and look from non-meta standpoint then I think Blueblood just used Gala as a perfect opportunity not to look as if he's courting her and also it's probably the case of Big Bad doesn't understand friendship or emoetions in general. Like I said earlier He thinks that not alowing the rest of EoH get Gala tickets doesn't concern Rarity in any way.
Digo Dragon 12th Oct 2017, 8:10 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Is it can haz initiative nao?
Jennifer 12th Oct 2017, 8:31 AM edit delete reply
At this point I expect her to actually consider it, and tell him so. (I'd say "accept" except for her expression during the actual sequence). He calms her down, she follows him into the ballroom. Comes the cake, he shows his true cowardice, and THEN she unloads on him.

I honestly am looking forward to the chaos scene.
offroader 12th Oct 2017, 8:43 AM edit delete reply
Interesting idea. Can see that happening.
Digo Dragon 12th Oct 2017, 9:19 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Or maybe that's deliberate assault and battery with class 2 confectionery goods.
offroader 12th Oct 2017, 10:11 AM edit delete reply
Hey that cake is at least class 1. Or am I not getting something?
Guest 12th Oct 2017, 10:37 AM edit delete reply
I mean, a scene with all the communication being done in facial expressions and gestures seems like a gold mine for this sort of comic.
(TEST) 12th Oct 2017, 11:15 AM SKW edit delete reply
That's some bluff there.
Specter 12th Oct 2017, 12:17 PM edit delete reply
Specter.exe is now processing...
Specter.exe now taking action. Function='Speak Stab' now active.
"Stab him, stab him, stab him, stab him..."
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Wulfraed 13th Oct 2017, 6:46 AM edit delete reply
I didn't need that chanted "stab him"... I'm now hearing the latter half of "Hall of the Mountain King" -- the point where Pier Gynt is running from the trolls chanting (the original language comes across as "slag hem" which my guide translates as "kill him" -- but I feel "slay him" may be a more direct translation)
Space Jawa 12th Oct 2017, 3:41 PM edit delete reply
"Have you tried turning her off and on again?"
ChaoticBrain 12th Oct 2017, 4:26 PM edit delete reply
I'm certain Rarity is very much turned off right now, and there's nothing in the world Blueblood/Elusive can do to turn her on again.
Guest 12th Oct 2017, 6:16 PM edit delete reply
Is it plugged in, then?
Digo Dragon 13th Oct 2017, 7:59 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Someone might want to check the batteries?
darkgloomie 14th Oct 2017, 5:01 AM edit delete reply
I thought unicorns were solar powered though? Twilight certainly flared up that one time.

Maybe she's just an early adopter
remial 12th Oct 2017, 4:14 PM edit delete reply
it's a test. It was all a test, he was seeing what she would do if her life was taken away from her. She decided to go for revenge, when she could have settled into her cover identity.

he wants her to become the new Elusive.
Cliff Robotnik 13th Oct 2017, 4:41 AM edit delete reply
An interesting theory... also works with my "setting up resistance against Changelings infiltrating the Guild" Theory, if he has reason to believe that his identity was found out...

There must always be a Dread Pirate Roberts.
hariman 12th Oct 2017, 8:34 PM edit delete reply
...There's something else here, and I think Blueblood is going to mess this up somehow.
Frission 13th Oct 2017, 12:35 AM edit delete reply
Oh no! I'm all caught up! D:

*armflails* Comic faster, Newbiespud! D:
Cliff Robotnik 13th Oct 2017, 4:38 AM edit delete reply
*Joins Arm Flailing* Atleast 20% Faster!
PumpkingKnight 13th Oct 2017, 11:12 AM edit delete reply
I've always wondered what it would be like to be a mob wife
Registered 13th Oct 2017, 1:42 PM edit delete reply
Honestly, I don't really get the hate. That is what she wanted, right? Marry into nobility, I mean? He's basically just giving her what she wanted. She was said to be a "social rogue" too, so if anything, she has GAINED in power by that marriage. The only thing it does is cut her from guild connections and grant her plausable denyability. If she wants something from the guild, BB can get it for her, and if the guild is uncovered, she goes off scot-free.
Since Celestia wants the EoH free from possibly being a criminal (and all that implies and the outrage of Rarity not getting punished/being above the law by the public), this could be part of her scheme too (assuming she actually knows what's going on in the comic, not sure if we have that confirmed yet).
Cliff Robotnik 14th Oct 2017, 5:45 AM edit delete reply
The issue, as it were, is that is what she wanted NOW because Elusive ruined her life for no understood reason... This was her backup "retire the character" plan.

He manipulated her, and ruined her life and original goals and desires... For seemingly wholly selfish reasons.

The fact it's something she WOULD of wanted is irrelevant in light of this manipulation.

Unless my theory that he blacklisted her to keep her off the changelings Hit List, and kept the Mane6's reputation and Gala invites on the down low yo PROTECT THEN FROM CHANGELING INFILTRATORS IN CANTERLOT AND THE GUILD ITSELF.....

But that's just my theory.
Registered 15th Oct 2017, 5:00 AM edit delete reply
Well, but doesn't she get both in this situation? I mean, the only thing that actually changed was that she's not officially in the guild anymore. She still has access to their resources and information. And she still comes out on top in this because she now has a nobility title that'll grant even more connections to that part of society. The outrage it would cause when it's revealed that a national hero is a member of a criminal organization would also be a bad thing.

Not to mention that there are only 6 EoH, but a big number of nobles, so the argument of "your position is too highly monitored" is still true.
LazerZ 16th Feb 2018, 12:16 PM edit delete reply
Oh that's all. He wanted her there, with him, without her friends. Nothing worrying about that...